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Subject: Re: Rybka delays and vasik's chance to react to new fruit and shredder

Author: Arnold Gove

Date: 04:29:05 02/25/06

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On February 25, 2006 at 06:44:33, Uri Blass wrote:

>On February 25, 2006 at 03:55:32, Arnold Gove wrote:
>
>>On February 24, 2006 at 21:14:46, Uri Blass wrote:
>>
>>>On February 24, 2006 at 19:36:45, Arnold Gove wrote:
>>>
>>>>On February 24, 2006 at 10:44:31, Arnold Gove wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>On February 24, 2006 at 06:24:08, Arnold Gove wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>I repeat, we paid for Rybka expecting a full version by now. Unfortunately, we
>>>>>haven't been offered an explanation for the delay, just a marketing survey.
>>>>>Vasik certainly can't be accused of underpromotion, unlike his engine.
>>>>>
>>>>>AG
>>>>
>>>>To quote from the Rybka website...
>>>>
>>>>========================
>>>>
>>>> Purchase Rybka 1 series
>>>>
>>>>Note: This purchase contains all Rybka versions until May 1, 2006.
>>>>
>>>>Price: 34 Euro
>>>>
>>>>Components covered by purchase:
>>>>
>>>>    * All Rybka Beta versions until May 1, 2006
>>>>
>>>>========================
>>>>
>>>>NB The purchase contains all the BETA versions until May. Is that what we paid
>>>>for?
>>>>
>>>>AG
>>>
>>>No
>>>
>>>I paid only for all the versions until february.
>>>I am happy to get more than what I paid for.
>>>
>>>I expected to get only 50 elo improvement relative to the version that was for
>>>download.
>>>
>>>It seems that I am going to get more than it because rybka of today is already
>>>at similiar level to the level that I expected from rybka1.2 and I will probably
>>>get a stronger rybka.
>>>
>>>Uri
>>
>>Uri,
>>
>>1) There is now a free version of Rybka. It is almost as strong as the
>>commercial betas we've been paying for.
>
>This is no problem for me.
>
>I am not sure if it is almost as strong as the commercial release because 50 elo
>is significant.
>
>>
>>2) To turn the current Rybka beta into a fully-capable analysis engine wouldn't
>>take much work: a) enabling underpromotions, b) fuller support of the UCI
>>protocol.
>>
>>Instead of trying to squeeze extra strength out of an already strong engine,
>>Vasik should be delivering a fully working one.
>>
>>AG
>
>This is only your opinion.
>I care mainly about strength of the engine and I think that this is the opinion
>of many buyers.
>
>Uri

But Uri,

You will get your extra strength through the "subscription." Don't you want an
engine that works properly first? And now that Vasik has torn up one timetable,
couldn't he at least give a broad hint about the new one? It isn't clear when
the first non-beta will be released. Before May? Let's hope so.

AG



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