Author: greg moller
Date: 12:40:05 05/04/99
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On May 04, 1999 at 15:30:02, greg moller wrote: >On May 04, 1999 at 15:06:49, Dave Gomboc wrote: > >>On May 04, 1999 at 14:41:26, greg moller wrote: >> >>>On May 03, 1999 at 17:56:21, Will Singleton wrote: >>> >>>>On May 03, 1999 at 14:43:12, Dann Corbit wrote: >>>> >>>>>Everyone knows that computers are the best in the world at blitz already... >>>> >>>>Well, maybe not. :) >>>> >>>>Standard Blitz Bullet >>>>2720 Ferret(C) 3137 Dlugy(GM) 2937 Data(C) >>>>2720 OzsO(C) 3132 Ferret(C) 2930 WchessX(C) >>>>2682 matemastr(C) 3101 Mofongo(C) 2914 Mofongo(C) >>>>2677 RAINHA(C) 3076 FlyingPike(GM) 2912 crafty(C) >>>>2676 Lynnett(C) 3058 crafty(C) 2855 Box(C) >>><snip> >>> >>>I wouldn't trust the blitz ratings on ICC. This is a place where most players >>>duck one another all the time, handpick their opponents and only play each other >>>when the rating differential seems favorable. All this has a negative impact on >>>the rating system's accuracy. >>> >>>ICC should implement a system whereby it _forces_ players to regularly play >>>others in their rating bracket, possibly by generating random server pairings, >>>whenever a player's open for matches, in order to keep their ratings active AND >>>accurate at the same time. At the moment ratings seem dictated by players' whims >>>rather than their strength. Over-inflation at the top is clearly one of the >>>farcical by-products, although there may be other factors contributing to that. >>> >>>Also, the list shown above is subjective (as the header suggests). Ratings can >>>change very fast(another fallacy) on ICC, and picking a random top-ranking list >>>could just as likely show a Computer on top. >>>Incidentally, to find out the 'best' blitz players list, don't use the _best_ >>>command, which only gives human players (and then not all of those, either), but >>>use the _rank_ <playername> command, just as Will (correctly) did. >>> >>>Regards, >>>gm >> >>"best c" will include the computers. When I tried it, Ferret was above Dlugy, >>due to the fluctuation you mentioned. >> >>Dave > >You are right, however the best list is still flawed in that it won't show >certain human players if they have more than one handle, but their high-ranking >handle is not allowed on the best list. It may not sound like a big deal, but >oftentimes it IS the higher-rated, and thus more relevant, handle that gets >ommitted, while the 'eligible' handle is way down on the list or not even >active. This is a major problem with the best list, one that has not been >addressed -- A human player is only allowed to 'register' one handle as eligible >for the best list, regardless of rating or active status. > >Using the _rank_ command, however, shows all active handles without the >misleading restriction, but you need to be aware of the fact that the same >player may appear more than once. Not the perfect solution, either, but better >than leaving out people altogether. > >regards, >gm BTW, here's the 'real' blitz best-list , using the rank command instead : Rank Rat. Bullet Rank Rat. Blitz Rank Rat. Standard 30 2697 Finegold 1 3137 Dlugy 30 2526 BlackDragon 31 2696 Dlugy 2 3132 Ferret 31 2522 singacrafty 32 2695 heatstroke 3 3107 Nikephoros 32 2520 WienerPartie 33 2691 stein 4 3101 Mofongo 33 2510 Yeldnuh 34 2690 BAZMAN 5 3076 FlyingPiket 34 2508 Ikegami 35 2685 Blue-Dot 6 3044 jeleen 35 2494 HAL9000 36 2683 vaska 7 3038 OzsO 36 2494 SutterCane 37 2674 xypher 8 3034 Sharkman 37 2493 SWare-I 38 2672 singacrafty 9 3030 RAINHA 38 2492 mandamus 39 2663 Camila 10 3010 GMAlex 39 2487 heatstroke 40 2656 bani 11 3008 bani -- 2484 bani<---------- 41 2652 gvescovi 12 2999 Tack 40 2480 GellerGirl 42 2646 Wyrm 13 2988 ShredderX 41 2478 MoonShot 43 2645 Monopoly 14 2976 Secret 42 2475 MoonBeam 44 2639 crafty450 15 2951 Roller 43 2473 rayo 45 2637 IanCurtis 16 2950 crafty 44 2471 SuperChicken 46 2625 garompon 17 2947 Camila 45 2467 Vibora 47 2624 Lingo 18 2942 garompon 46 2465 CM6555 48 2624 MrSiniter 19 2936 aleks 47 2465 gambitmaster 49 2616 razzle 20 2933 Hawkeye 48 2455 ShredderX 50 2615 WeakComp 21 2929 kocho 49 2447 xypher As you can see, "poor" Nikephoros(GM), rated 3107 (!) and ranked #3, got totally gypped by the so-called best list. regards, gm
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