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Subject: Re: Rebel 10.5 - Rohde 0-1 (including game score)

Author: allan johnson

Date: 18:54:17 05/22/99

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On May 22, 1999 at 16:49:06, blass uri wrote:

>
>On May 22, 1999 at 16:29:39, Mark Young wrote:
>
>>On May 22, 1999 at 16:10:44, blass uri wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>On May 22, 1999 at 15:16:55, Mark Young wrote:
>>>
>>>>On May 22, 1999 at 14:07:44, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On May 22, 1999 at 14:03:54, Dave Gomboc wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>[Event "ICS Rated standard match"]
>>>>>>[Site "chessclub.com"]
>>>>>>[Date "1999.05.22"]
>>>>>>[Round "-"]
>>>>>>[White "Rebel10-5"]
>>>>>>[Black "rohde"]
>>>>>>[Result "0-1"]
>>>>>>[WhiteElo "2200"]
>>>>>>[BlackElo "2298"]
>>>>>>[TimeControl "7200+5"]
>>>>>>
>>>>>>1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. g3 Bb4+ 4. Bd2 c5 5. Bxb4 cxb4 6. Bg2 O-O 7. Nf3 d6
>>>>>>8. O-O a5 9. a3 Na6 10. Nbd2 Re8 11. Ne1 e5 12. Nc2 bxa3 13. Rxa3 Rb8 14.
>>>>>>Ne4 Nxe4 15. Bxe4 Bh3 16. Re1 Qb6 17. e3 f5 18. Bd5+ Kh8 19. Qa1 Nb4 20.
>>>>>>Nxb4 axb4 21. Ra5 exd4 22. Rb5 Qd8 23. exd4 Ra8 24. Rxe8+ Qxe8 25. Qc1 Qe2
>>>>>>26. f4 Qd3 27. Rxb7 Re8 28. Kh1 Qc2 29. Qe3 Qb1+ 30. Qg1 Qxb2 31. Rb6 h6
>>>>>>32. Ra6 Qc2 33. c5 dxc5 34. dxc5 Qc3 35. Ra1 b3 36. Rc1 Qd3 37. Rd1 Qe2 38.
>>>>>>Rb1 b2 39. Qd1 Qxd1+ 40. Rxd1 Rd8
>>>>>>{Rebel10-5 resigns} 0-1
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Dave
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>interesting game for those of us watching.  One wild point was Michael's 26th
>>>>>move (black).  H5 is absolutely crushing... crafty was at +3.5 (for black) after
>>>>>14 plies (it locked on to h5 very early and score kept climbing).  Michael went
>>>>>for a slower line, then had another opportunity a few moves later, to go to +3.5
>>>>>again, but again he took a slower route.
>>>>>
>>>>>All in all nicely played.  Rebel blew up on playing f4 as one obvious mistake
>>>>>as that invited the devastating kingside attack.  Another mistake was getting
>>>>>tangled up on the b-file trying to win pawns...
>>>>>
>>>>>The game could have been over on move 26...
>>>>
>>>>I understand the first positoinal mistake from a computer point of view, getting
>>>>tangled up on the b-file, but f4 seems to lose by force. Was the position lost
>>>>anyway before Rebel played f4, or was this some kind of tactical blunder by
>>>>Rebel, bug??. Other program score f4 -3 or worse in a short time.
>>>
>>>The only move in the position is 26.Bg2
>>>
>>>26.Rxb7 instead of f4 is another typical computer error.
>>>It is losing against Re8
>>
>>26. Bg2 was the move Hiarcs7 like, and scored the position as only somewhat
>>worse for white, but not losing as with 26 f4 with at score of -3.
>>
>>Do you know if the position is lost after the move Bg2. What is your feeling
>>about the position after the move 26. Bg2 ?
>
>I do not know if white is losing but I feel that black has the advanatge after
>Bg2.
>
>Junior5.4 also finds Bg2 at tournament time control with similiar score to
>hiarcs7.
>
>Uri
>>
>>>
>>>Uri
Uri CM6000 also selects Bg2 with a slightly negative score for White -0.34
For 3min 04 sec it nominates f4 with a positive score for White 0.67 but
changes this to -1.92 at the 3.04 min mark.My machine is not particularly
fast (Pentium mmx166 64 mb ram) What this highlights to me is that Rohde is
perhaps playing the wrong machine if we are to get a genuine idea of computer
chess strenght.This is not to say that at tournament time controls Rohde would
still not have won but the result might have been closer?What do people think?
Allan



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