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Subject: Re: Strongest program for Linux?

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 13:07:18 05/24/99

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On May 24, 1999 at 14:53:56, Dann Corbit wrote:

>On May 24, 1999 at 14:38:03, José de Jesús García Ruvalcaba wrote:
>
>>On May 24, 1999 at 14:31:30, Dann Corbit wrote:
>>
>>>On May 24, 1999 at 07:12:24, O. Veli wrote:
>>>
>>>>  Is there a commercial program for Linux? I remember a post here stating that
>>>>Shredder 3 runs under Linux but have never seen it advertised as such. Are there
>>>>any master level programs for Linux other than the Crafty?
>>>>
>>>>Gens una sumus,
>>>On a multiple CPU machine, crafty is probably the fastest chess program on
>>>Linux.  In fact, Dr. Hyatt's multiple CPU machine is running Linux (IIRC) and it
>>>seems to be a world-beater as far as ratings goes.
>>>
>>>Since it is already multi-cpu aware, it can harness horsepower that other
>>>programs can't.  Can you imagine Crafty on a Cray/Silcon Graphics T3E fully
>>>configured?  It might possibly be the second strongest chess engine on the
>>>planet, after Deep Blue.
>>
>>	Does the T3E support SMP? If so, then I am almost sure that crafty on that
>>machine is stronger than any generally available chess engine. If not, then you
>>can get a Sun Enterprise 10000, which I am sure supports SMP.
>Fastest machines in the world list:
>http://www.top500.org/top500.list.html
>Mostly SGI at the top.  Since they have many hundreds of processors, they had
>darn well *better* be able to do SMP or they are really in trouble.
>;-)


Unfortunately, they aren't.  :)

SMP = symmetric multiprocessing, which implies shared memory.  The Cray/SGI
T3X (T3d/T3e/etc family) uses good cpus, but is based on message-passing.  It
is practically impossible to do real shared memory with hundreds of processors.

It has been tried, but the access time suffers terribly (the Kendal-Square
machine comes to mind if I spelled it correctly).

So the T3e isn't so attractive at present, but rest assured, there will be a
'message-passing' crafty running one day, for clusters of machines or for the
big boxes like the T3.




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