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Subject: Re: Rebel Windows Interface: Panic time?

Author: Richard Heldmann

Date: 11:10:01 05/26/99

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On May 26, 1999 at 13:16:23, Vicente Fernández Herrasti wrote:

>On May 26, 1999 at 10:58:08, Fernando Villegas wrote:
>
>>On May 25, 1999 at 22:24:41, Richard Heldmann wrote:
>>
>>>The responses so far seem pretty negative and are more directed towards form
>>>rather than function.  Must be true CM6 or USCF Chess fans.  Better listen to
>>>them Ed, give'em some bells 'n loud whistles and a few blinking lights too!
>>>
>>>Rick Heldmann  :)
>>
>>Hi Richard:
>>I detect some dosis of sarcasm in your tone. Also I detect a will to create or
>>recreate or enforce a distinction betweeen you, the "smart guys" that only care
>>about strenght, and us, the stupid people that go for whistles. It is not so,
>>Richard. It is just human to pretend not only funtionality but some pleasant
>>presentation in the things we use. I am sure that when you purchase some cloths
>>you take some care to do so with pleasant cloth and not with just the first
>>thing you see in the shop. Same with cars and anything else. Once you have
>>ensured high strenght in almost any top program, is only natural to demand extra
>>features in terms of presentation. Nobody talk of whistles, although I have
>>nothing againts them, but just of an elegant, well made GUI. I am sure you have
>>not take a look at CP gui. If you do you will be with me is not the adequate
>>thing for Rebel.
>>fernando
>
>Yes, Fernando.  It seems that a lot of "wise guys" love clichés like the "bells
>and whistles" stuff.  I don´t know what is so wrong about these features that,
>though not esential, make the user feel comfortable.  As an example, if I were
>to make a wishing list for the Chessmaster 6000 guys, I would ask for an
>analisys window in player vs. player mode, but I would never think about taking
>away all the extras that the software provides (rated computer opponents, rate
>my play, tutorials, extra chess sets)never minding if I use them or not (other
>people, such as my wife or son, use such features as Fun Levels in Fritz, or
>blunder opening book on Rebel; what is wrong with that?).  The Rebel GUI affair
>is not about bells and whistles. It is about a most serious subject when it
>comes to deal with quality and market:  excellence, which is exactly what Rebel
>has given us for years.  I hope Ed and his team will decide for an elegant and
>functional GUI; the rest (I mean engine strength, database features, etc) is
>already done.  By the way, as long as they keep all the features that Rebel
>already provides, I don't give a damn if the Schroeder team pack the windows
>version with two or three bells, and a couple of whistles.
>Vicente


Folks,
All I am trying to convey is too lighten up a little.  I'm sure the final
Rebel-CP will be "beautiful".  Fernando is right, as I spoke with a little
tongue in cheek.  I own CM6, Rebel10, Fritz5.32 and Hiarcs, and they are all not
perfect, but I like they all.

Rick Heldmann



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