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Subject: Re: Deep blue chip-more than 70% of the voters think that it is not strong

Author: Dave Gomboc

Date: 09:58:17 05/30/99

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On May 30, 1999 at 10:04:41, blass uri wrote:

>More than 70% of the voters say that deep blue chip will not have more than 2800
>ssdf rating.
>
>In other words top programs on pentium200 can expect more than 20% against it.
>
>I abstained in the opinion poll because I do not know if to believe Hsu's
>results of 38:2 of weaker version(deep blue Junior) or to believe my impression
>based on public games that deep blue Junior is not so strong.
>
>Deep blue Junior lost against 24xx player in 15 minutes per game and drew
>against another not strong player.
>
>Deep blue Junior won most of the games but every commercial could do the same.
>
>Uri

Deep Blue Junior lost against someone who has been playing the Velimirovic
attack for 25 years (Soltis).  It's going to happen once in a while, what can I
say?  And a poll is a poll: my guess is that it reflects the percentage of us
that have met and spoken with members of the Deep Blue team and believe what
they are doing works, as opposed to the people who just don't believe them, for
whatever reason (including reasonable and unreasonable reasons :-).

I think it would rank (well over!) 2800, because in computer chess, a healthy
dose of speed advantage wins, almost without exception.  Hey, how many instances
are there on the SSDF list where the same version of the program is established
at more than one hardware level?  We could look at these and estimate how many
SSDF elo one gets out of increased hardware performance.

Would it be worthwhile to make a similar projection to interpolate (some would
say "extrapolate" :-) to the performance of software running at the roughly the
same speed as Deep Blue Junior or the proposed PCI card (which are not too
different, are they?)  I'm not sure that this projection is valid, but we could
see what it is and then argue about how valid it might be. <grin>

Dave



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