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Subject: Re: Chessmaster series of computers

Author: James Robertson

Date: 18:06:19 06/03/99

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On June 03, 1999 at 19:25:37, José de Jesús García Ruvalcaba wrote:

>On June 03, 1999 at 18:23:28, Stephen Ham wrote:
>
>>Dear Readers,
>>
>>Please forgive my message since I know next to nothing about computer
>>hardware/software. Due to my ignorance, I'm more than a little intimidated to
>>even be posting this. However, I just glanced at some of the tournament games
>>archived at Shep's Computer Chess Site. Shep made note when different chess
>>programs left their opening books. The CM 5500 and CM 5555 programs left their
>>opening books after just a few moves, many moves before Hiarcs, Junior, Fritz,
>>MCP, and others left theirs. Regardless, the CM programs scored exceptionally
>>well in these tournaments. This suggests that the CM programs, all things being
>>equal, must therefore be much stronger programs than the others since they had
>>to "rediscover" chess opening theory already loaded into the other programs. As
>>such, CM's alloted "thinking" time was consumed finding these opening moves. The
>>other programs didn't expend any clock time until they left their opening books,
>>thus giving these programs a huge time advantage for the remainder of the game.
>>Therefore, the CM programs were handicapped with a smaller opening book and less
>>time available once their adversary's opening lines were completed, yet the CM
>>programs scored highly. Am I missing something here or is it not logical to
>>assume that the CM programs are superior performing programs than Junior,
>>Hiarcs, Fritz, MCP, etc? Finally, since program opening books confer an
>>advantage/handicap depending upon their completeness/accuracy, would not the
>>best test of software strength be to either have programs compete without their
>>opening books or from the same middlegame position? Please let me know your
>>thoughts and whether such a tournament has been done. Shep, does this sound like
>>something you'd be willing to try?
>
>	I think that the opening book is an integral part of a chess playing program.
>The book can be a weakness, too. I do not think that a small, but correct, book
>is a big disadvantage. It is worse to have a big book full of mistakes.
>José.

Actually, my understanding is the CM has a wide, shallow book full of bad,
offbeat moves, but fun to play against if you are a human.

James



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