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Subject: Re: and another Hash Table question...

Author: Dan Homan

Date: 05:51:35 06/04/99

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On June 03, 1999 at 15:58:10, Inmann Werner wrote:

>On June 03, 1999 at 14:20:00, Dan Homan wrote:
>
>>On June 03, 1999 at 11:37:00, Inmann Werner wrote:
>>
>>>Hello
>>>
>>>the "hit ratio" of hash tables confuses me a bit. What is a hit?
>>>
>>>I tried the LCTCMB01 position and got
>>>
>>>1) 1.520.234 nodes
>>>2)   263.041 entries in Hash table used
>>>3) 1.458.957 probes in Hash table
>>>4)   137.961 entries found
>>>5)    40.777 entries have a "allright" depth to use
>>>6)    37.517 match alpha, beta (upper and lower fails) and are used!
>>>
>>>so i get a effective hit ratio of 37.517/1.458.957 =2,6%  ????
>>>
>>>where do the 10% going around come from???
>>>
>>>can anybody explain, how he counts and what numbers he get?
>>
>>I think that most people are counting like you do.  It depends on
>>whether you store/probe frontier or q-search nodes.  I never store
>>or probe for q-search nodes, but I have tried it both ways with
>>frontier (depth = 0) nodes.  When I probe but do not store frontier
>>nodes, I find that I get about 1% to 5% efficiency in most positions.
>>When I probe and store frontier nodes, I get 10% or better efficiency,
>>but this seems slower overall than only probing frontier nodes.
>>
>> - Dan
>>
>
>I do not differ between q-search an normal search. But if i only count "normal
>search" i get about 10% real hits, but it depends very much on search depth.
>Only "normal search"
>7 plys 4%
>8 plys 8%
>9 plys 10%
>
>Is this normal rates?

I don't know.  Every program/implementation is different.  I think that
your hit percentage should increase somewhat as you search more (unless
you saturate your hash table), but it seems a little funny to me that
you should double your hit percentage in going from 7 to 8 plys.
Do you have this effect in a large number of positions?

 - Dan

>
>Werner



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