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Subject: Re: Bookless play in the opening an indicator of strength?

Author: Stephen Ham

Date: 15:55:45 06/04/99

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Dear Paul,
Yes, I believe you and I are thinking about much the same thing. Still, I meant
to communicate more, but I may be causing confusion due to my ignorance of
computer hardware/software.

Regarding opening books, some people said that small opening books are not a
handicap. That astounds me! For example, it seems on average the CM programs
left the opening book by move 8. Since the other programs were still in theirs
after twice that number of moves, that means that CM had to find "book" moves
for at least another 8 moves. Since the other programs had yet to expend any
time, CM in a 40/2 time frame (3 minutes/move) thus used 24 minutes or 20% of
all it's alloted time for the entire game just to get to the point where the
other programs start to calculate. Therefore the point I'm trying to make is
that it seems to me CM's small opening book handicaps itself by having to find
the correct opening moves (not easy to do reliably) AND by having at least 20%
less time to calculate for the game than its opponent. Since it's results were
excellent in the tournaments, it seems to me this program must be a superior to
the others. What other program can match up with Hiarcs, Fritz, Junior, and MCP
while also taking a 20% time handicap? What other program is willing to do that
AND have to find it's own opeing moves very early on? The fact that CM did play
with what I perceive as 2 handicaps and still got excellent results suggests CM
superiority to me.

In summary, if my assumptions are correct, then CM programs would be the best
ones to use when trying to understand complex positions. They may not be much
fun for an OTB master to play with because the master would have to wait for the
program to find it's opening moves while a human opponent would blitz through
the opening. However, if used to educate ourselves about chess in general or
research middlegame positions, this may be a superior program to Hiarcs, Fritz,
etc. Is my logic correct?



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