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Subject: Re: Nominees.... The Ball Continues to Roll..

Author: Dave Gomboc

Date: 13:26:37 06/08/99

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On June 08, 1999 at 14:21:12, KarinsDad wrote:

>On June 08, 1999 at 14:03:58, Dave Gomboc wrote:
>
>[snip]
>>
>>Well, let's step out of the hypothetical, and give a concrete example, though
>>I'm sure the "hypothetical" example above has reminded you of it already.  Bruce
>>Moreland restored a post by Michael Cummings that had asked the moderators to
>>resign after (I think) Will Singleton had deleted it.  Will was being consistent
>>with his moderation standards by deleting it, Bruce was being consistent with
>>his philosophy by restoring it, and I was surprised that Bruce's post didn't get
>>deleted, even though I did think that the original deletion wasn't justified.
>>
>>Now let's return to the hypothetical, but in a similar situation.  What would
>>you do if you found a post to be worthy of deletion and did so, but someone who
>>is _not_ a moderator restored the post to the web board?
>>
>>Dave
>
>I would delete the second post as well. What good is moderating the board,
>making a decision, and then having some third party person restore what was
>moderated? It makes no sense. I do not care the standing of the individual (with
>the exception of Steve and he would not do this) within our community in regard
>to this.
>
>Posting a message talking about a deletion is fine. Re-posting the message (even
>in an attempt to prove your point) is thumbing your nose at the moderators and
>should not be tolerated. If there is a large controversy over it, Steve and the
>moderators will decide whether a mistake was made and whether the message should
>be re-posted.

In the case I brought up, Bruce restored the message, not the original poster
who made it, and said that if it was deleted again that he would repost it
again.  Yes, he was thumbing his nose at the moderation.  Assume that you email
him personally, and he is unwilling to relent.  What will you do?
    a) ban him
    b) let the restored post survive
    c) continue deleting it as many times as necessary
    d) other?

Back to the hypothetical, let's say that somebody thumbs their nose at you next
time?  ("Some person who refuses to even tell me who they _are_ decided that my
message was unworthy and deleted it.  I see nothing wrong with it, and I'm
reposting it, and will continue to do so if it disappears again.")  You can
choose from the same options as above.

>I feel that some people shout just to shout. They take up the cause and protect
>the downtrodden. Quite frankly, I do not think there are that many downtrodden
>people on this forum. I think that there are people who dislike other people
>(due to what they have posted in the past) and these people will go out of their
>way to cause controversy when their "opponent" steps onto the stage. When the
>person who is disliked is a moderator, then even people with a lot of common
>sense sometimes make exceptions.

AFAIK, neither Will nor Bruce have any dislike for each other.  Moderation is a
tough job, but when it's all said and done neither of them are going to hold any
grudges about it.

>What can you do about that? Not much except your best.
>
>KarinsDad :)

Dave



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