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Subject: Re: WCCC 1999 Pairings

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 09:32:13 06/09/99

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On June 09, 1999 at 11:13:49, KarinsDad wrote:

>On June 09, 1999 at 09:25:40, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On June 09, 1999 at 01:53:13, blass uri wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>On June 08, 1999 at 23:50:20, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>
>>><snipped>
>>>>totally wrong.  In past wccc events commercial programs have not fared well at
>>>>all, with the exception of 1992 (no big iron there) and 1995 (only deep thought
>>>>participated from the 'big-iron' programs).
>>>
>>>I read that star socrates(2nd place) was another super computer in 1995
>>>tournament.
>>>
>>>Uri
>>
>>
>>That is possible... what I meant was that to do well at previous wccc events,
>>a program had to get thru the likes of deep thought, hitech, cray blitz, bebe,
>>and several other 'research' programs running on big hardware platforms...
>>
>>Around 1992 this trend changed.  For us it changed due to a strange shift in
>>ICCA policy.  At the organizaational meeting of the ICCA in 1977 we _all_ voted
>>to alternate WCCC events between Europe and North America.  And this was done
>>for a while...  1974 = Europe, 1977 = NA, 1980 = Europe, 1983 = NA, 1986 =
>>Europe, 1989 = NA, 1992 = Europe, 1995 = Europe, 1999 = Europe.  Three Europes
>>in a row made it too expensive (IMHO).  And the "big iron" faded significantly.
>>
>>Maybe not a bad thing, but it actually happened...
>
>Maybe it is time to have it back in North America for 2001-2002 (whichever year
>is picked).
>
>This would give me a few years to get my program working, a while to make it a
>parallel search (it is already designed to do this with only some minor
>modifications), and some time to get access to a big honking system to run it
>on.
>
>That would be cool!!!
>
>KarinsDad :)


The biggest problem is money.  I believe that the ICCA wants 36,000 bucks or
so before they start to think about holding the event somewhere.  That is not
very likely any longer, particularly after the deep blue match in NYC.  Most
big companies now consider computer chess 'done'...

Perhaps we need to think 'outside' the ICCA, or even think about a networld
computer chess tournament...  it would be _much_ cheaper, can be about as much
fun with channels to talk in, and we could get a field of 60+ programs if every
author would enter.

_that_ would be fun...



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