Author: Dave Gomboc
Date: 11:20:50 06/16/99
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On June 16, 1999 at 10:40:43, William H Rogers wrote: >On June 16, 1999 at 10:13:53, Chris Carson wrote: > >>On June 16, 1999 at 09:58:45, William H Rogers wrote: >> >>>On June 16, 1999 at 07:59:57, Chris Carson wrote: >>> >>>>On June 16, 1999 at 05:36:21, alfred palang wrote: >>>> >>>>>Planning...this is where the big hole is with our programs. Tactics: programs >>>>>execute them with astonishing accuracy. Positionally: we need more >>>>>improvements! >>>> >snip >>You make a very good point. I think I know the program you are refering >>to, I have the book at home (by Newborn), but the name escapes me. >>Darkthought and Crafty have both done some deep thinking and noted that >>move selction continues to change with depth. I agree that knowledge >>is important, move selection is a good observation, I still wonder if >>all knowledge is necessary at 25 ply (some still is, just not sure >>what type, different in middle vs end?). It seems that tactical knowledge >>might be the easist (not sure though) to replace with fast hardware? >> >>Your comment reminds me of a quote (author unknown). When Capablanca >>was world champion he lost an exhibition game to a local club master. >>The story goes, a reporter asked Capa how far ahead he looked during the >>game, Capa replied "10 moves". The reporter asked the club master the >>same question, the club master replied "one, but it was the right move". :) >> >>Just remembered, was the program named Belle? >> >>Best Regards, >>Chris Carson > >Both Belle and TECH use the same primise and came to the same conclusions. >Tactical knowledge is based mainly on captures, etc. and that is why most chess >programs exceed when they search greater depths, but positional knowledge is one >of the main things that most programmers are seeking. Both Belle and TECH relied >upon tactics, mainly going to greater depths to find captures. It was not >enough. Control of center and of the board, ie. mobility is where most of the >better programs are finding their greatest strength. >Bill What was not enough? Belle was WCC Champion. Dave
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