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Subject: Re: Super GM Result for Computers!!

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 08:26:00 06/22/99

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On June 22, 1999 at 10:20:18, Harald Faber wrote:

>On June 21, 1999 at 13:15:16, Dann Corbit wrote:
>
>>On June 20, 1999 at 13:14:24, odell hall wrote:
>>>Hi CCC
>>>  I Guess no one has any lame excuses about this result, since the time control
>>>was 40/2. I think it now clear to everyone the computers have reached the
>>>grandmaster level!!.  Show me a team of internation masters that could achieve
>>>such results in a million years! And this was not one game!! , but Five!
>
>>Despite your insistent pleas, this is not evidence of GM level.  GM norms are
>>mathematically described in the rules for FIDE, USCF, or similar governing
>>bodies.  When computers have managed to perform as described, then they will be
>>playing at GM level.  Since they have not, we cannot say that they are and we
>>also cannot say that they are not.  We really do not know.  To pretend that we
>>do know is bad science.
>
>How is the chance of getting a FIDE-title for a chess program? What does the
>FIDE charter say about chee programs competing in human tournaments? What does
>USCF say?


A few years ago, in an effort to get a part of the 'cash cow' that computer
chess manufacturers represented, FIDE adopted a rule that allowed a computer
to become a member.  However, the 'fee' was out of sight.  I don't even recall
what it was now, but remember laughing when I saw it.  I have no idea if the
rule has been repealed (likely, since FIDE is pretty fickle rule-wise).  USCF
allows computer members (Crafty is a member, rated at roughly 2400 after only
a dozen games or so) but most USCF sanctioned tournaments have (NC) (no
computers) in the advertisements...  USCF also has some stupid rules that allow
humans to 'opt-out' of playing a computer at the start of a tournament, which
can totally screw up pairings and final results...



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