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Subject: Re: Hiarcs7.32 DISGRACED Fritz5.32 in 20 games under tournaments contr

Author: Wayne Lowrance

Date: 19:30:47 06/27/99

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On June 27, 1999 at 14:31:38, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On June 27, 1999 at 14:24:54, José de Jesús García Ruvalcaba wrote:
>
>
>I would add two points.  Playing a match on _one_ computer is not very
>revealing.  On a 200mhz machine, I'd expect fritz to search about 200K
>nodes per second maybe.  in a long game (40/2) you average about 4.5
>minutes per move (assuming no book) or 6 mins/move if the first 15 moves
>are book.  That means that you need a hash table of 360 * 200000 * 16 (or
>whatever the size of fritz's hash entry is, I assume 16 bytes).  40mb is nowhere
>near big enough for fritz, for reasons unknown (ie poor replacement strategy, no
>replacement strategy, or whatever).

What would you say to two programs (the above) playing on one computer, but in
engine=engine move, but rather switching alt+tab between the two programs. Of
any value ?
>
>second, many programs (Most notably Crafty) depend on 'pondering' because in
>my case, I assume that pondering works, and expect to save time when it does
>work right.  And I use this time _before_ I save it.  If pondering is off,
>Crafty will get behind on time and not play well.
>
>In short, engine vs engine matches on the same computer are nearly worthless
>to show how the engines would play on different computers...
>
>
>
>
>>On June 27, 1999 at 01:42:40, Tania Devora wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Hi guys, I have finsihed my first twenty games between the super strong
>>>Hiarcs7.32 and Fritz5.32 under tournaments controls, ( 2 hours and a half for 40
>>>moves, 1 hour for 20 moves, and all the moves for 30 minutes) .
>>>
>>>Fritz5.32 disapointed me totally, look the games, they all have good openings,
>>>and more than once Fritz lost in winning positions. Look carefuly at the games.
>>>
>>>Please look carefuly the game number 20, is one of the most beautiful game than
>>>i ever seen. Remember me the great JOSE RAUL CAPABLANCA.
>>>
>>>The results dont lie, Hiarcs7.32 is superior. My machine is k6-2 333 mhz with
>>>128 ram, 44 mb for each one. 150 minutes for 40 moves.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Please to all the person give me your comentaries. Thanks to all !
>>>Regards  your friend Tania !
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Fritz5.32  =  1   1/2   1/2  1/2  0  0  1/2 0  0   1  0  0  0  0  0   1/2   0
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Hiarcs7.32 =  0   1/2   1/2  1/2  1  1  1/2  1  1  0  1  1  1  1  1   1/2   1
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  f5.32 =           1/2  1/2  0                   5   1/2
>>>
>>>                                      Result :
>>>  h732  =           1/2  1/2  1                   15  1/2
>>>
>>
>>	If I am counting right, the final result is fritz 5.5 points, and Hiarcs 14.5
>>points (and not 15.5).
>>José.



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