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Subject: Re: about rating in ICC.

Author: Christopher R. Dorr

Date: 13:30:25 06/30/99

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On June 30, 1999 at 16:12:44, blass uri wrote:

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>On June 30, 1999 at 15:19:54, Christopher R. Dorr wrote:
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>>Interesting point, but I doubt that this would help much. The only people on ICC
>>capable of beating the better programs are the *strong* IM/GM types (ICC rated
>>over 2700). They play on ICC, in part, precisely *because* they get to choose
>>who they play. Why would a ICC 2850 want to play in some kind of random
>>tournament, playing 1282s (or even 2282s for that matter)? What would he/she
>>gain? Nothing...so they wouldn't play...
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>The tournaments can be based on rating and they cannot know against who they are
>going to play but they can know that they play against players with rating that
>is close to their ratings.(>2600 ratings)
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>Uri

even so, I'd be very surprised if you got many GMs who would play in these. And
by introducing the factor of only playing certain players in their rating group,
you also introduce rating error. I know an NM who does *fabulously* against
players rated under 2100 or so....wins 90% of his games, but only does so-so
against other masters and above. Another master I know won't play in tournaments
open to those below 2000, because he drops tons of points to people rated 300
points lower than him...but if you're a 2400, he'll toast you alive. If any GMs
do play, will they be the ones who beat up on 2400's, or the ones who give up
draws to 2400's, and jack up Shirov? If the point of the ratings is to impart
some information about 'strength', then I doubt that you'll find anything much
better that '+/- 200 points' type stuff.

The point is, that I doubt you'll ever find a completely 'correct' rating
system, short of having a 50,000 round double round robin on ICC...should be
done around the year 2078, I believe  :)

Chris



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