Author: Andrew Williams
Date: 16:57:24 07/22/99
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On July 22, 1999 at 19:28:18, Mark Young wrote: >On July 22, 1999 at 13:46:02, Fernando Villegas wrote: > >>Due to severe and unsurpassable differences between me and Bruce Moreland >>concerning the moderation issue, I publicaly announce my resignation to the >>post. The reasons: when I was candidate to be moderator, I already stated -as I >>already have done in several post- that i was not inclined to deletions, neither >>to warn people because "off topic" posts. That has always seemed to me childish, >>silly, narrow minded. I already gave my reasons to tolerate that kind of off >>topic post, so I will not repeat here my ideas about that. Now I am myself >>victim of a deletion because of a joke that Bruce consider is only worthy to be >>in the wall of my bathroom. I do not know what kind of things Bruce has seen in >>his or another walls, by probably he has not seen the joke i wrote here. It is >>the kind of thing you can lesson in any table after dinner. Not the great thing. >>For the same token, the sheer fact that Bruce was upset by that or he thought >>somebody was going to be is something laughable for me, in the very fringe of >>paronia. But nevertheless maybe he is right and almost all people here share his >>point of view. I got the second higher number of votes in the election, but >>maybe it was just a case of statistical error. Maybe it is me who is out of >>place here, anyway. Maybe this is, like some british programmer warned me to be, >>a place just for robots, not for human beings. Or in any case is like the robots >>rule the site and the rest must comply or be deleted, warned and treated like >>children. >>I have nothing againts Bruce as a person, surely he is a nice guy and a >>respected professional in his area, but I do have something against some of his >>ideas about how to moderate this site and clearly he feel the same about me. So >>why I resign instead of him or a long disputation about this issue? Well, >>because this things cares the less to me. I do not get a life reading, posting >>or moderating here. Asd Ingo Althofer, the german mathematician saw with his >>eyes when in my country and my home, I am not precisely a deprived man looking >>for a place where to get a life. So I think this, my resignation, is the best >>things to all and as much there is a replacement for me, nothing will be >>damaged, all the contrary. >>I post this not because I want to begin a war or make a melodramatic sortie, >>because I suppose I will stay reading and posting here from time to time if >>Bruce graciously abide to that, but I do it just to warn you not to consider me >>responsible of any actions taken in the goverment of this site from now on. >>Cheers >>Fernando > >I never did understand the moderation representation on CCC. We vote for three >moderators, but instead of having two of the three moderators agreeing to delete >a post, we have three three kings that do as they will when they see a post they >think should be deleted. This approach kills the representation of the mass of >CCC. Not a very logical way to represent the voters. > >Under the circumstances of how the moderators represent the voters I understand >and agree with your reasons for resigning. As it stands now if one moderator can >delete posts at will without the consent of at least one other moderator, this >leave you unable to represent your position and view as moderator that you ran >and were elected on by the voters of CCC to represent. I think this would double the amount of effort required by the moderators. Instead of just one being "on duty" at a given time, it would need two. If one moderator has to contact the other two every time an unacceptable post appears, the post could cause *chaos* here before it is dealt with. If there's no question about relevance (ie a dirty joke, or indeed any joke that has nothing to do with computer chess), I'm happy for the moderator on duty to get rid of it. I think it is unfortunate if moderators start posting off-topic stuff here (and yes I am sensitive to the fact that not everyone agrees with me about what is on- and off-topic), but I don't think that any of us wants dirty jokes to be considered on-topic in this forum. Moderation is an onerous and difficult and thankless task. Let's none of us make it any harder than it obviously is. Andrew Williams
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