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Subject: Re: Playing Strength

Author: KarinsDad

Date: 09:42:07 07/28/99

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On July 28, 1999 at 07:19:25, Phil Dixon wrote:

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>A recent issue of the Colorado Chess Informant covering the 1998 U.S.
>Championship, featured mini-interviews with several of the players. GM Joel
>Benjamin was asked about the relative strength of 1700-, 2200- and 2700-players.
>Joel said that a 1700 would probably have slightly better chances against a 2200
>than a 2200 vs. a 2700. He reasoned that 2200s are erratic, i.e., their playing
>strength is more likely to fluctuate than that of GMs.
>
>Joel was also asked how he would do against WCC Champion Garry Kasparov.
>Benjamin responded that if he could get an opening edge against a GM of his own
>strength, he'd most likely win. However, in the same scenario, Kasparov would
>most likely draw or even beat him. For Joel to have a decent shot, Kasparov
>would have to give him the White pieces, and draw odds.
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>The above piece is from Inside Chess Online.  A fine magazine, IMO.  But I would
>be interested in others comments about this article.  Does the average GM need
>White AND draw odds to have a chance against K?
>
>Does a 1700 have a BETTER chance against a 2200 than a GM against K?  It seems
>like the answer is yes, IMO. He does have to play aggressively and constantly
>strive for the initiative.

I would think so. I am about a 1700 player and have had 2200 players on the
ropes a few times. I have never managed to win (they somehow seem to squirm out,
but I do know of cases where 1500 players have beaten 2200 players). Kasparov
has lost very few games within the last 15 years and I believe that all (or
almost all) of those loses have been against players within 200 points of him. I
think the average GM does not stand much of a chance against him (at least not
in practice, regardless of what the statistics say).

Now that I have said this, let me put in a caveat. I think an average GM has
less chance of beating Kasparov than a 1700 player has of beating a 2200 player.
However, I think an average GM has a better chance to draw Kasparov than a 1700
player has of drawing a 2200 player. The reasons for this are: 1) GK will not
often give up the win, but he will occasionally give up the draw, especially if
he only needs draws to win a tournament and 2) there is a greater rating
difference between a 1700 player and a 2200 player than there is between an
average GM and Kasparov.

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>Can a 1700 win a 10 game match against a 2200 player?

There is a statistical possiblity. However, I do not see it ever happening in
real life unless some other elements are there (the 2200 player being ill, the
1700 player really being a 2100 player, etc.).

KarinsDad :)




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