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Subject: Re: CST time control violation (was: Re: 99 Summer update....)

Author: James T. Walker

Date: 06:21:22 08/20/99

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On August 19, 1999 at 08:00:11, Thorsten Czub wrote:

>On August 18, 1999 at 14:15:59, James T. Walker wrote:
>
>>Hello Shep,
>>I guess I'm not very sensible for wanting the program to play by the rules of
>>chess which includes playing by the clock.  It's beyond my comprehension why you
>
>It is completely LEGAL to lose on time. I have seen many humans do that before
>so - indeed, you are not very sensible for wanting a chess program not to do
>something many many humans do from time to time.

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What a strange twist of words.  Of course it's not ILLEGAL to lose!  When you
are playing under time controls such as 40/2 you MUST make 40 moves within 2
hours.  To not do this IS ILLEGAL and the penalty is forfeiture of the game.
Apparently this is beyond your comprehension. :-)
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>I do understand that this is beyond your comprehension :-))
>Why do you think CSTal is names TAL and not Chess System ROBOT ??
>Any idea ? Could it be that the program is named by tal because we wanted
>to make it human-like ?
>
>
>>would play a rated game in a tournament under time control conditions and not
>>think playing according to the clock is important.
>
>It is important, and although it is important i have seen many humans
>overstep time control. don't you ?
>it is important. but not forbidden or illegal to do it , or ?
>
>
>> That reminds me of a guy I
>>used to play golf with.  He didn't think the rules of golf were important or
>>applied to him.
>
>as i told you - it is LEGAL to lose on time. it happens very often.
>it was made to lose on time. so it makes no sense NOT to lose on time, than
>the whole rule would be illogical. if nobody would lose on time, we would
>not need clocks anyway. i guess you are a little irritated in logic. maybe
>consider again about the topic would help ?
>
>> I like CST-2 but it has some problems which need attention.
>
>:-)) good that we have you :-)))
>
>>This one happens to be my pet peeve.  The clock gives both players a fair
>>allotment of time which should be followed.  If you fail to play the given
>>number of moves in the alloted time you lose!  Other than that it's not
>>important.
>
>exactly. losing is not important. that is what i told you before. chris and i
>are not interested in winning or losing. we want to make the program stronger
>in playing not in not playing but following YOUR rules of importance.
>we have participated few championships with not losing on time. It was
>hiarcs that lost on time against cstal in paderborn 1995 when i remember it
>right. so maybe you should write an email to mark uniacke, author of hiarcs. :-)
>
>
>
>>Jim Walker



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