Author: James Robertson
Date: 16:29:09 08/23/99
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On August 23, 1999 at 17:26:17, Andrew Dados wrote:
>On August 23, 1999 at 15:28:10, James Robertson wrote:
>
>>Yesterday on FICS I noticed scrappy (Crafty on P200x4) was playing a human who
>>had already defeated it twice at 5 5 blitz and was mopping up a third victory. I
>>was kind of suspicious, so I started talking to him and asked him to play my
>>program. Overall, it was a completely one-sided affair, but I was convinced that
>>he was not a computer when he missed several tactical things my program saw very
>>quickly.
>>
>>I asked him if he was a GM or IM, and no, he said he was unrated(!). Anyway, I
>>have never seen a human outsmart computers so well in blitz without relying on
>>standard anti-computer play. Nor did he shy away from tactics, and often after
>>complex exchanges he would come out ahead.
>>
>>Is he very unusual, or are there a lot of players like him? He also mentioned he
>>had many rated chess playing friends, and did not think he was near GM strength.
>>
>>James
>
> This is one of his games when he agreed to play with no increment.... 3 0 tc
>and he of course got flagged.
>Note he never moves below 3 sec (as fast as someone relaying moves to chess
>program can go, even most obvious moves), never took more then 7 sec/move.
>Black is typical 'human' time usage. Btw... I'm not accusing him of cheating -
>just bringing some facts to ponder :)
>
> 1. d4 (0:02) d6 (0:01)
> 2. e4 (0:05) Nd7 (0:00)
> 3. Nf3 (0:05) Ngf6 (0:01)
> 4. Nc3 (0:06) e5 (0:01)
> 5. Bc4 (0:03) Be7 (0:01)
> 6. O-O (0:03) c6 (0:01)
> 7. a4 (0:06) h6 (0:01)
> 8. a5 (0:05) Qc7 (0:01)
> 9. Be3 (0:07) O-O (0:01)
> 10. Bb3 (0:05) Re8 (0:02)
> 11. h3 (0:05) Nf8 (0:01)
> 12. Qd3 (0:04) Ng6 (0:04)
> 13. Rfd1 (0:05) Bf8 (0:01)
> 14. d5 (0:05) c5 (0:03)
> 15. Nb5 (0:03) Qe7 (0:06)
> 16. c4 (0:05) a6 (0:02)
> 17. Nc3 (0:05) Bd7 (0:01)
> 18. Na4 (0:05) Bxa4 (0:02)
> 19. Bxa4 (0:04) Red8 (0:00)
> 20. Rdb1 (0:05) Qc7 (0:04)
> 21. b4 (0:05) Nd7 (0:02)
> 22. bxc5 (0:07) Nxc5 (0:04)
> 23. Bxc5 (0:04) dxc5 (0:01)
> 24. Qb3 (0:04) Rab8 (0:03)
> 25. Qc3 (0:04) Bd6 (0:03)
> 26. Rb6 (0:05) Nf4 (0:01)
> 27. Qb2 (0:04) Nd3 (0:02)
> 28. Qd2 (0:04) Nb4 (0:01)
> 29. Nh4 (0:04) Bf8 (0:11)
> 30. Nf5 (0:04) Rd6 (0:07)
> 31. Nxd6 (0:04) Bxd6 (0:02)
> 32. Ra3 (0:03) Rd8 (0:10)
> 33. Rg3 (0:07) Kh7 (0:04)
> 34. Qe2 (0:04) Qe7 (0:08)
> 35. Qg4 (0:04) g6 (0:01)
> 36. Qe2 (0:04) Rb8 (0:02)
> 37. Qd2 (0:04) Bc7 (0:08)
> 38. d6 (0:04) Bxd6 (0:04)
> 39. Qxd6 (0:04) Qxd6 (0:01)
> 40. Rxd6 (0:03) Rf8 (0:02)
> {White ran out of time} 0-1
>
>-Andrew-
The fishy thing I noticed was of course his time usage.... he never used less
than 4 seconds when I was watching. This seems very unusual, and I would expect
any human to speed up if they played 3 0. Obviously he did not....
The evidence for him being human was also his time use (when I played it varied
a lot), and that he sometimes made tactical mistakes, even after a lot of
thought.
He led his king on a surprising king march in his second game with JRCP, and
eventually walked it right into perpetual check. I don't know if that is a
computer or human thing to do. :)
James
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