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Subject: Re: What's the fuzz about Crafty??

Author: Peter McKenzie

Date: 01:27:43 08/27/99

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On August 27, 1999 at 03:24:37, Terje Vagle wrote:

>On August 27, 1999 at 03:04:30, Bruce Moreland wrote:
>
>>
>>On August 27, 1999 at 02:40:49, Terje Vagle wrote:
>>
>>>I'm running Crafty 16.15/16.16 on a PII-450, 128 MB ram,Win-98, Winboard 4.0.2
>>>and HT=64MB
>>>
>>>I'm running Rebel 9 on a portable P-266MMX with 32 MB ram,Win-98, HT=13MB
>>>
>>>Running them manually against each other, Rebel wins EVERY time,( about 35 games
>>>so far ) both at blitz and at longer time-controls.
>>>
>>>Any comments?
>>>
>>>( Yes I know that Crafty is free and Rebel is not, but we all know what internet
>>>can provide these days )
>
>
>
>1) Tell me the right config.
>
>2) what do you mean  with " it is just not true"?

I think he means that it is false.

Rebel simply isn't good enough to beat a 'proper' crafty 35-0.

For example, Ed Schroder recently ran a match between Rebel and Crafty on equal
hardware and Rebel won 29.5 - 15.5.
See:
http://www.rebel.nl/cent1.htm#STRENGTH

>
>Terje
>>>
>>>And yes, I have the original Rebel 8 and 9.
>>
>>This kind of post comes up sometimes and I don't understand it.  The only
>>reasonable conclusion I can draw from a report that Rebel has won 35 in a row
>>against Crafty, while running on inferior hardware, is that something is wrong
>>with your Crafty installation.
>>
>>Winning a few in a row is random and might indicate some superiority but might
>>not.  Winning 35 in a row is completely insane, it's like a thousand rating
>>points.  That's just not true, and I'd be surprised if someone here tried to
>>suggest differently.
>>
>>bruce



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