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Subject: Re: CSTal 2 vs. Hiarcs 7.32, 17 games, cheating of autoplayer !!

Author: Thorsten Czub

Date: 06:30:09 09/03/99

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On September 03, 1999 at 02:35:06, Ed Schröder wrote:

>On September 02, 1999 at 18:25:52, Thorsten Czub wrote:

>>the series shows how the chessbase autoplayers is doing it.

>>if you would have played the games each game with a reset
>>pc, without autoplayer cable, your >10.game results would
>>more like the first 10 games result.

>>in fact your result exactly shows what we always said and talk
>>about, but we have no evidence HOW they do it.
>>i am sure ed knows HOW they do it. therefore next rebel century
>>comes WITH autoplayer and new learning algorithm.
>>
>>ONE more thing: the cyrix cpu is not very fast.
>>This hurts cstal, since cstal does many times less NPS than hiarcs.
>>also 60/60 is not that good, 40/120 would be better.
>
>I think there is nothing wrong with the CB autoplayer. Just copy the
>original opening book from cdrom (all learning is then deleted) and
>start to (auto)play again.
>
>Ed

if you do this after EACH game, than there is anything OK.
But the ssdf-guys and the guy having played these games, has not done so.
it is NOT the learning alone in my opinion.
and for me it remains: it is cheating.
i don't have these results playing manually.
they play automatically and get these cheated-results.



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