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Subject: Re: CSTal 2 vs. Hiarcs 7.32, 17 games, *NO* cheating of autoplayer

Author: James T. Walker

Date: 08:46:51 09/03/99

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On September 03, 1999 at 09:35:27, Thorsten Czub wrote:

>On September 02, 1999 at 18:54:21, Heiko Mikala wrote:
>
>>No Thorsten, sorry, but what you say is wrong!
>
>no - it is right. i don't get these results playing manually.
>
>>If you look at the PGN's which I posted, you will see that the games have been
>>played on different days. This was *not* one series of games, but 5 different
>>small series of games.
>
>and ? still the autoplayer of this company is involved.
>As long as this autoplayers of this company are involved, it is cheating
>for me. because they produce these cheating results.
>on championships they cannot cheat. they try - but it does not work
>(paderborn: siemens hardware).
>
>>The above is *not* an autoplayer issue! As I said in my original post, I see the
>>same thing happen over and over again when playing matches with other engines
>>using Winboard (NOT auto232) and although Winboard is set up to reload the
>>engines after *every* game.
>>
>>Greetings,
>>
>>Heiko.
>
>I don't have these series when playing on 2 machines manually.
>whatever the problem is you have in your winboard games
>or in those games, it is not the same than playing manually on 2 machines.

Hello Thorsten,
It's easy to make accusations without proof.  I can also say they main
difference between auto232 games and your "Manual" games is HUMAN INTERVENTION.
In auto232 games there is no means available to affect the outcome of the game
by the operator except in your case when you ignore the loss on time by CSTal.
In manual games you can take longer to relay moves and affect the outcome as
pondering plays a big part in games.  You can also select the openings you want
to play which might favor one program over the other.  In auto232 this is not
possible.  How does the Chessbase auto232 know which program is which?  If I lie
to the machine and tell Junior 5 it is playing Nimzo instead of really playing
Fritz will Junior 5 now win the match against Fritz?  Get help.
Jim Walker



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