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Subject: Re: Hiarcs 7.32 vrs Crafty 16.13 > Games 9 & 10 =1.5 to .5 - Now 6.5 - 3.5

Author: Mark Young

Date: 15:28:27 09/09/99

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On September 09, 1999 at 05:28:27, blass uri wrote:

>On September 09, 1999 at 04:23:44, Micheal Cummings wrote:
>
>>On September 08, 1999 at 23:56:05, Mark Young wrote:
>>
>>>On September 08, 1999 at 22:31:00, Micheal Cummings wrote:
>>>
>>>>Hi Terry
>>>>
>>>>I enjoy the games, but why do you want to play Crafty against Hiarcs. I would
>>>>estimate that it could not beat the top ten programs listed on the SSDF also not
>>>>Rebel.
>>>>
>>>>This just being played as an interest on your part, or are you hoping or
>>>>expected manybe an overall win for crafty
>>>
>>>I don't understand your statment??? You can estimate all you want, but if you
>>>want to know you must let the programs play. Anything else is just guessing. I
>>>would bet Crafty could beat some of the programs in the top 10. The new versions
>>>of Crafty are getting very strong. I know this because I test Crafty.
>>>
>>>10 MChess Pro 6.0 41MB P200 MMX  2506 28 -28 637 57% 2454
>>>
>>>Here is the # 10 ranked program on the SSDF list. If you don't think Crafty
>>>would have a good chance of besting this program. Then you have not seen the
>>>latest version of Crafty play.
>>
>>
>>but what are we talking about, crafty on a high spec piece of hardware playing
>>Mchess pro on a P200 MMX.
>>
>>So in your opinion, on equal harware out of all the program in the top 10, which
>>do you think would lose to crafty in say 20 games.
>
>I think that part of the top 10 programs are going to lose against crafty in 20
>games when both programs use the same hardware.
>
>I remember results like Junior5-crafty16.6 16:14,Fritz5.32-crafty16.6 16:12
>from james walker's games and I guess that crafty16.6 is not the strongest
>crafty(It is clearly not the latest crafty).
>
>I think that people ubderestimate crafty because it is free.
>
>Uri

This is very true, I have played Bob's Crafty 2 times in matches, one with Frtiz
5 vs Crafty on a Quad PPro 200 , and one with Hiarcs 7 vs Crafty on a Quad PII
400. In both matches I knew before hand that the commercail programs would win,
because I had played hundreds of games against Crafty and could calculate even
running with a huge speed advantage Crafty had little to no chance of winning.
Those days are now gone, I have seen much improvment in crafty since then. It is
much closer to the top programs in strength on equal hardware let alone on a
Quad PII 400. It is not yet in the same class as Hiarcs, but it is much closer
then many people think.



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