Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 21:35:28 09/11/99
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On September 11, 1999 at 23:12:57, Eugene Nalimov wrote: >I beleive the most powerful "off the shelf" SMP x86 system is 8 CPU Xeon system >that uses Intel Profusion chipset. That chipset was described in Microprocessor >Report ~2 months ago. > >Eugene... Correct so far as I know. But they are pricey as hell. First version I saw was over 80,000 dollars. But they were only shipping with the 2 meg L2 cache processors, which cost about 5K each (5 x 8 = 40K just for the cpus...) sounds good however... just pricey. :) And Tim Mann's 21264 is maybe 2x faster than my quad xeon when you factor in SMP losses due to extra nodes searched. 8-16 of those are simply impossible to think about. but 20M nodes per second is suddenly real possible... > >On September 11, 1999 at 22:14:44, Robert Hyatt wrote: > >>On September 11, 1999 at 20:19:52, Eugene Nalimov wrote: >> >>>On September 11, 1999 at 20:05:14, Dave Gomboc wrote: >>> >>>>On September 11, 1999 at 19:50:11, Eugene Nalimov wrote: >>>> >>>>>On September 11, 1999 at 16:07:47, odell hall wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On September 11, 1999 at 15:27:43, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>On September 11, 1999 at 14:05:12, Leon Stancliff wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Robert, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I have been speculating for a long time on what would take place in a match >>>>>>>>between the top ten computer programs running on easily available machines and >>>>>>>>the top ten chess players in the USA. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I have been playing my Hiarcs 7 program on a Macintosh G3 at 275 Mhz. It plays >>>>>>>>almost even with both Data and Singacrafty on ICC. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I have assembled the following list of computer programs from such sources as >>>>>>>>the SSDF list and the Selective Search list. In your opinion, would Data, >>>>>>>>Singacrafty or Crafty deserve a position in this list? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hiarcs 7.32 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Fritz 5.32 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Chessmaster 6000 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Nimzo 99 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Chess Tiger 11.8.2 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Junior 5 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Rebel 10 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Shredder 3 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Genius 5 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> MChess Pro 7 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Let's assume that each is running at about 550 Mhz on a single CPU. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> MChess Pro 7 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>I wouldn't venture a guess. If you put crafty on a quad xeon 550, it can beat >>>>>>>_any_ of those programs. On equal hardware I really don't know as I don't play >>>>>>>on 'equal' hardware. :) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Oh yes!, i would love to see the results of crafty verses the top programs on >>>>>>equal hardware, It would be interesting to see how it would measure up. >>>>> >>>>>Ok, I think the right "equal hardware" should be 16-CPU Alpha 21264. Or (if it >>>>>happenes that some programs will not run on Alpha), a 8-CPU Xeon. >>>>> >>>>>Eugene >>>> >>>>Sounds good to me! :-) >>>> >>>>Do Intel Paragons consist of x86 chips? >>>> >>>>Dave >>> >>>I beleive it's not SMP platform. >>> >>>Eugene >> >> >>Correct. It is a mesh-connected message passing system. Each node has 5 >>processors, and four bi-directional communication channels (100mbytes/sec I >>think, but am not certain). IE PVM/DCE/MPI/CLINDA/CILK/etc would work on it, >>but there is _no_ shared memory.
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