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Subject: Re: Hiarcs 7.32 refuses to draw!

Author: Claudio A. Amorim

Date: 08:37:25 09/16/99

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On September 16, 1999 at 09:40:11, James T. Walker wrote:

>On September 16, 1999 at 08:05:24, Claudio A. Amorim wrote:
>
>>Hello, All.
>>
>>I am posting a game that I played yesterday against Hiarcs 7.32, on a K6-2 350
>>Mhz, with time control of 3min +3sec/move, and strongest engine settings. By
>>moves 40-50, the game was a clear draw, but Hiarcs declined every draw offer
>>until move 72, when I interrupted the game, without wating for the 50 moves
>>rule.
>>Well, Hiarcs 7.32 is VERY strong indeed, but this specific game is a model of
>>how dumb and "computerish" its play can be, some times. I tested the position on
>>Crafty 16.13 engine, with a similar result. When I turned chatting on (by move
>>70), the Chessbase interface even told me I was asking for a draw in order to
>>get myself out of a messy situation!!
>>Do you know of any program that behave differently in such positions? Is this
>>the kind of "intelligence" we can expect from top chess engines?
>******************
>Hello Claudio,
>I think you are expecting too much.  Do you own Rebel 10?  Try to offer it a
>draw!  There is still no "Perfect" program out there.  No one program offers
>everything I & you & everyone else would like to have.  You might try adjusting
>the "comtempt" factor and see what it would take to make it accept a draw in
>this game.  I haven't tried this so I don't know what would happen.
>Jim Walker
>*************
>

Yes, Jim,

You're right. I played many games against Rebel 8 and 9, as well CM4000, and
none never accepted a draw, unless they "thought" they were lost (in fact, I
defeated Rebel 9 only once...).
It isn't so much a question of what I expect, because I think these programs are
extraordirary achievements: STRONG, useful and fun! I only want to stress the
very different approaches humans and computers use to play chess. Computers just
can't "understand" the features of any given position, altough they can beat
most of us repeatedly. For me, that's a nice question to think about!

Regards,

Cláudio.



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