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Subject: Re: forward pruning for underpromotions

Author: James Robertson

Date: 17:01:19 09/20/99

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On September 20, 1999 at 19:11:43, Peter McKenzie wrote:

>On September 20, 1999 at 16:15:46, James Robertson wrote:
>
>>On September 20, 1999 at 14:51:35, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>
>>>On September 20, 1999 at 14:08:26, Jon Dart wrote:
>>>
>>>>Arasan doesn't generate rook or bishop underpromotions except at
>>>>ply 0 (I think Crafty does the same thing).
>>>
>>>
>>>No.  Crafty generates all promotions in normal search, but only generates
>>>queen promotions in the q-search.  I think leaving out underpromotions is a
>>>mistake in the regular search... but in the q-search only doing queens seems
>>>reasonable if you don't handle checks and escaping from check.  If you do, I'd
>>>likely throw in knight promotions...
>>>
>>>
>>
>>My program only generates Queen and Knight promotions, as I have never seen a
>>position where a Bishop/Rook promotion was any good.... I have run across a few
>
>Check out the Saavedra position - in my opinion one of the coolest known chess
>positions.  The position looks deceptively simple, the sort of position you
>could easily imagine occuring in a real game.
>
>The solution has a couple of nice twists (including under promotion to a Rook).
>If you like chess and don't know this position, you are in for a real treat.
>
>Check out:
>http://www.xs4all.nl/~timkr/chess/saavedra.htm
>
>cheers,
>Peter

I'll reiterate my answer to Jeremiah: I'm aware of such positions, but have yet
to see one in an actual game (and I've seen a _lot_ of games).

James



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