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Subject: Re: SSDF list says: Fritz5.32 still number 1...

Author: blass uri

Date: 00:59:25 09/28/99

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On September 27, 1999 at 10:03:22, Harald Faber wrote:

>On September 27, 1999 at 09:29:34, blass uri wrote:
>
>>On September 27, 1999 at 05:25:25, Harald Faber wrote:
>>
>>>On September 27, 1999 at 04:40:27, blass uri wrote:
>>>
>>>>On September 27, 1999 at 02:43:06, Jouni Uski wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Heh, heh. Hiarcs7.32 should have been totally in it's own class, but SSDF tells
>>>>>the truth again! Single computer engine-engine play doesn't tell much yet...
>>>>>And Fritz 6 is much stronger.
>>>>>
>>>>>Jouni
>>>>
>>>>The problem with hiarcs7.32 is the book and it is more important when you use
>>>>fast hardware.
>>>>
>>>>SSDF says nothing about Hiarcs7.32 with a better book.
>>>>
>>>>SSDF says gives CM6000 better rating than Fritz5.32 on the same hardware so it
>>>>is not clear if they say Fritz5.32 is number 1.
>>>>
>>>>The ssdf says that Fritz5.32(K6-450) did not play a big number of games and the
>>>>rating of it may be changed so it is not clear if Fritz5.32 is really number 1.
>>>>
>>>>I expect the rating of Fritz5.32 to go down in the future when it plays against
>>>>better opponents.
>>>>
>>>>Uri
>>>
>>>I'd expect Fritz at least to keep the rating because of the excellent
>>>booklearning function.
>>
>>I do not believe it is possible that Fritz on K6-450 is more than 100 points elo
>>better than Fritz on p200MMX .
>>
>>Fritz played many games against most of the opponents(the list is not based on 5
>>games of Fritz against 20 different opponent) so I do not expect learning to
>>help Fritz to get better rating.
>>
>>Uri
>
>We have seen Fritz performance much better in the 2nd half of a match.
>I am sure this has to do with the learning.

We have seen chessmaster6000 get better rating when people expected that it is
going to get worse because it had no learning function.

This proves that learning is not so important.
I am also not sure that Fritz5.32 really does better results in the second half
of the match.

I know it was truth for Fritz5 but Fritz5.32 has a better book and maybe the
secret of Fritz5's learning was a bad book.

Uri



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