Author: Didzis Cirulis
Date: 09:23:36 10/07/99
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> >I think that the original tester of this long thread Dizdis cirulis played >clearly more slower games and manually. > >Of course the experiment is not the same as with 2 computers but I think that >the difference is usually minor(less than 20 elo). > >I believe that Christophe Theron may improve his program by tuning to permanent >brain on(he admitted that he does not do it) but I do not think that the >improvement is going to be more than 20 elo. > >You also can improve your program for permanent brain off games >by tuning it to this kind of game but I do not believe that you will get more >than 20 elo realtive to a good guess without tuning. > >Uri Time for me to show up again ;-) When testing on one computer with PB off, there are not so much problems at all. If Crafty does some more work after the actual move, no problem - when move is made, crafty may do what ever it wants in no hurry. If no permanent brine acting in this, no problem. So, crafty makes a move, updates learning etc and.... and stands still until the next move. Right or wrong? And even if it would do something (like CM) in background, I would see the slowdown in other program's work. And I would correct times for the game. The same for CM - That does not matter if I turn that dialogue window on immediately! That is not CM's PB that is wasting time. And CM's opponent is "sleeping" there in background not taking care about what CM does until I come to feed in the CM's move. AT THIS MOMENT when I am about to feed that move into CM's opponent, CM itself must be put to "sleep" by starting that dialogue window. What is so difficult about understanding this? One program works while another is stopped. No uncontrolled influence! Now about that "cripled game mode" argument: I agree there is something importand that differs - PB is off. But let me point to another aspect of this: My main testing is for Chess Tiger. And whatever "cripled" data I produce, Christophe is clever enough to use it to improve his program. Is there any doubt about Chess Tiger's progress? So, conclusion: 1) I am happy to play my test games as that is fun. I learn myself a lot while doing that - trying to guess the upcoming move etc. 2) Christophe is happy as his program is getting better. 3) I fell good as I take a part in computer chess progress ;-) by helping Christophe. This is all an offtopic (maybe) for Programmers, but sometimes I read your messages and I feel you miss something important. Correct me if I am wrong. Have a great Chess! Didzis Cirulis
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