Author: blass uri
Date: 06:29:25 10/11/99
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On October 10, 1999 at 15:49:09, Thorsten Czub wrote: >On October 10, 1999 at 15:35:53, Enrique Irazoqui wrote: > >>It is not very active, it likes to play cat and mouse without doing much until >>it sees something in the search, but it is very efficient. > >I do have a different opinion. the games i get are different from yours. >tiger plays in all games very active and having initiative. >it forces the wins. it makes the game.- >do you test a different program ? >older tiger versions were passive. not 11.2 and not 12.0. > > > >>I start thinking of >>it as the opposite of CST in every way. > >?? > > >>I guess that if someone likes CST or >>Mchess won't like Tiger so much, and viceversa. Do you agree? Now that I think >>of it, Thorsten likes both, CST and Tiger, so I may be wrong. > >I like the games. it is not important HOW a program gets a beautiful >game, it is important THAT it plays beautiful chess games. >i am not interested in games that are dump, produced by dump programs. >by boring games between junior-fritz or nimzo-fritz or whatever. >i am interested in planful games . hiarcs and mchess and ctiger and rebel >and virtual and cstal and and and produce those interesting games. >this is what i like. I believe that all the programs are dumb and have no plan. programs also calculate a tree when both sides move and I know no program that calculates things like I am going to play Be7 (in order not to let the opponent to play Bh6-f8) after it Kh8 after it Bg8, after it Bh7 after it Bg6 and after it I control the important diagnol (h7-b1)so I can go forward with the king and play Kh7 and win the game because the bishop at h6 i trapped. They may discover ideas like this by search but if the plan is long enough then they have no practical chance to discover it. Some programs have better evaluation function but I believe that all of them are based only on search of lines when both sides play and this is the reason that humans are sometimes superior relative to programs (mainly in the endgame) and I see sometimes stupid mistakes by all programs (including Tiger and Hiarcs) in the endgame. Uri
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