Author: KarinsDad
Date: 15:11:10 10/13/99
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On October 13, 1999 at 17:50:30, Robert Hyatt wrote: >On October 13, 1999 at 17:23:14, Howard Exner wrote: > >>Here's an example of pawn majority knowledge. A program >>with pawn majority knowledge of the queen side configuration in this >>example may well find the winning move Qg6+. >> >>4Q3/6pk/2pq4/3p4/1p1P3p/1P1K1P2/1PP3P1/8 b - - bm Qg6; >> >>After the exchange of queens will follow the the advance of the black king to >>the kingside, then exchanges of the kingside pawns, and finally the king can >>march over to pick up the queenside pawns. Is knowledge that white cannot break >>through on the queenside essential for solving this? Would any program find Qg6? > > >not a good example it seems. black can win tactically also... Crafty >finds Qg6 instantly, even on my notebook... And says that black is +2 >from winning material after a lot of checks. the majority code I have is >fairly good at saying 'black has good winning chances here' but it can't >override winning 3 pawns or so, which Qg6+ does. > > 8 0.91 ++ 1. ... Qg6+!! > 8 1.47 1.86 1. ... Qg6+ 2. Ke3 Qg5+ 3. Kf2 Qd2+ > 4. Kf1 Qxc2 5. Kg1 Qxb2 6. Kh2 Qxb3 > 7. Qxc6 > 8-> 1.70 1.86 1. ... Qg6+ 2. Ke3 Qg5+ 3. Kf2 Qd2+ > 4. Kf1 Qxc2 5. Kg1 Qxb2 6. Kh2 Qxb3 > 7. Qxc6 > 9 3.07 1.83 1. ... Qg6+ 2. Ke3 Qg5+ 3. Kf2 Qd2+ > 4. Kf1 Qd1+ 5. Kf2 Qxc2+ 6. Kg1 Qxb2 > 7. Kh2 Qxb3 8. Qd8 Kg6 9. Qxh4 > 9-> 3.22 1.83 1. ... Qg6+ 2. Ke3 Qg5+ 3. Kf2 Qd2+ > 4. Kf1 Qd1+ 5. Kf2 Qxc2+ 6. Kg1 Qxb2 > 7. Kh2 Qxb3 8. Qd8 Kg6 9. Qxh4 > 10 5.81 2.00 1. ... Qg6+ 2. Ke3 Qg5+ 3. Kf2 Qd2+ > 4. Kf1 Qd1+ 5. Kf2 Qxc2+ 6. Kg1 Qxb2 > 7. Kh2 Qxd4 8. Qxc6 Qf4+ 9. Kh1 d4 > 10-> 6.00 2.00 1. ... Qg6+ 2. Ke3 Qg5+ 3. Kf2 Qd2+ > 4. Kf1 Qd1+ 5. Kf2 Qxc2+ 6. Kg1 Qxb2 > 7. Kh2 Qxd4 8. Qxc6 Qf4+ 9. Kh1 d4 > >and the score continues to slowly rise... Are you sure you supplied the proper position? 1. Qg3+ 2. Ke3 Qxe8+ losing the queen. KarinsDad :)
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