Author: Dave Gomboc
Date: 18:47:24 10/13/99
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On October 13, 1999 at 21:36:54, Robert Hyatt wrote: >On October 13, 1999 at 19:50:41, Dave Gomboc wrote: > >>On October 13, 1999 at 12:18:57, Robert Hyatt wrote: >> >>>On October 13, 1999 at 03:34:11, Shep wrote: >>> >>>>On October 12, 1999 at 13:59:47, Christophe Theron wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>>this case 7.5 minutes. In this case I saw instead that Hiarcs, with 1 or 2 >>>>>>minutes left after move 52, used all its time, with the word TIME appearing on >>>>>>its clock. I had never seen this before either. In this 8th game it was lost >>>>>>anyway, but Hiarcs lost on time. >>>>>> >>>>>>Enrique >>>>>> >>>>>>>Regards, >>>>>>>Terry >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Very human-like, this time management! :) >>>> >>>>I have seen this often, especially in Hiarcs 6. At move 32, its eval drops from >>>>+0.1 to -1.5 and it suddenly uses like 30 minutes for that move, so that only 5 >>>>minutes remain for the last 8 moves. In other words, Hiarcs is the only program >>>>that really gets into time trouble like a human. >>>> >>>>--- >>>>Shep >>> >>> >>>This still sounds like a _serious_ "bug" to me. -1.5 is not absolutely losing >>>by any measure. But 5 minutes for 8 moves probably is losing against a good >>>opponent with way more time. >>> >>>A fine line exists between using just enough time to save yourself, and using >>>too much time and basically leaving the game resignable. >> >>A drop from 0.1 to -1.5 is an excellent time to start panicking. >> >>Dave > > > >Yes... but with caution. -1.5 isn't necessarily losing. Time == 0 is >absolutely losing. You have to weigh those two opposing issues and come up >with something that doesn't turn a possible draw/loss into a definite loss... It's big enough that if you're not busted, you've misevaluated how bad your position is! Can someone post the position where the fail low occured at? We can see if it's a middlegame or an early endgame or what. Dave
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