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Subject: Re: And what about the almost real DB card for PC?

Author: Jeremiah Penery

Date: 22:43:48 10/13/99

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On October 13, 1999 at 22:54:20, Micheal Cummings wrote:

>On October 13, 1999 at 20:38:19, Jeremiah Penery wrote:
>
>>On October 13, 1999 at 20:25:18, Wayne Lowrance wrote:
>>
>>>On October 13, 1999 at 18:07:12, Fernando Villegas wrote:
>>>
>>>>Hi:
>>>>The long, long thread about Rebel and DB Jr remember me a more practical issue;
>>>>the father of DB said it was going to push a commercial operation to put in the
>>>>market a card version of DB, that is to say, something altoguether different to
>>>>the real, kasparov-killer thing, but anyway stronger han the poor mutilated
>>>>thing Rebel beated so easily. Anybody here know something about the current
>>>>status of hat proyect?
>>>>fernando
>>>
>>>All hype, It is never gonna happen, trust me ! To many problems. Hardware, Ibm,
>>>Cost etc. They talk of speed performance not achievable. Development cost ? who
>>>is going to pay for it ? You think they can get it back at $200 per board even
>>>if they could produce it at that price which is very unrealistic. The market to
>>>recoup the investment is not nearly large enough to compensate for the capital
>>>outlay.
>>>
>>>In other words, it is a pipe dream.
>>
>>Do you have any real information on this, or are you just making conjectures
>>based on opinion?
>>
>>Jeremiah
>
>I agree with Wayne, and I even stated all this when it first came up. Of coarse
>proof at this time cannot be gained. But when you think about what is on the
>market and what it takes and the price they quoted, then apart from Hsu and Bob
>Hyatt who said back then to one of my posts that is could happen due to some
>cheap chip making method then he has his point of view.
>
>I just find it hard how DB required all these chips and this super computer to
>beat a crappy Kasparov on the day, and that all this will still be capable with
>just one small chip selling for less than the Novag Sapphire which is the top of
>the line protable.

I don't think anyone ever said it would have the same capability as DB did.
What this will be is simply a new chess chip (The same chip with a much smaller
fabrication process, allowing it to run at about 10x the speed of the original
chips, or 30M+ NPS) on a PCI board or some such.  DB was using about 1000 of
their chess chips, each running at 2.4M(?) NPS.

So the new chips will be nowhere near the speed of DB, but they will still be
extremely strong.

Jeremiah



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