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Subject: Re: And what about the almost real DB card for PC?

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 06:24:32 10/15/99

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On October 15, 1999 at 02:56:41, Micheal Cummings wrote:

>Ok Bob, I ain't gonna fight with you. All things they have done I am not
>questioning. It is just the way they went about their last match with Kasparov
>and some of the things they say they want to do.


You need to get rid of "they" as a pronoun.  It is too vague.  "they" could be
either "DB team", "IBM" or "both".  You are directing "they" toward the team.
They are not, were not, in control.  When IBM realized how valuable this was
going to be (after losing match 1 they still had a _huge_ public relations
plus) the marketing/legal folks assumed control.  Hsu and group were certainly
in charge of the hardware/software development, but how it would/could be used
in public was way beyond their control.



>
>I do not think the cheap DB Jr chip will be on the market anytime soon, that is
>what I am saying. Even if they have this chip, I think the total package that
>they say they can make and sell if for will not be what they stated.

I don't know whether it will or not.  Hsu said it will.   He also said he would
build a machine that could reach 1 billion nodes per second. He did.  He has yet
to say he was going to do something, and then fail to deliver.  Based on that,
I expect to see something, unless he decides to move on to something else
because he is tired of chess.




>
>Simply because I do not think they will have the backing for this. If there was
>an interest I think there would be many who would want to jump on the band
>wagon.


there is _no one else_ in computer chess that knows diddly-squat about designing
VLSI hardware.  And putting a complete alpha/beta search + evaluation into that
hardware.  special-purpose hardware projects (for chess) have been rare.  I
can name exactly four in 30+ years:  Belle, Bebe, Deep Blue, and HiTech.  Mit
did a 'cheops' gadget back in the 70's to go along with greenblatt's program,
so maybe 5.


>
>Whether right or wrong, my argument is aginst Hsu, not you Bob. If Kasparov can
>make what some say were crazy statements, then I can make mine, but mine are not
>crazy :-)


just uninformed.



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