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Subject: Re: La Petite 1.0 (download)

Author: William Bryant

Date: 07:18:43 10/23/99

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On October 23, 1999 at 02:33:25, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On October 23, 1999 at 02:06:26, Will Singleton wrote:
>
>>On October 23, 1999 at 00:41:29, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>
>>>On October 22, 1999 at 20:28:15, Pete Galati wrote:
>>>
>>>>On October 22, 1999 at 18:48:58, James Swafford wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On October 22, 1999 at 07:10:55, Frank Quisinsky wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Hello,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>you can download a new WinBoard Engine from my webpage.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>La Petite (program from Dr. Gabriele Müller, switzerland) is the "Little" sister
>>>>>>from La Grande. La Grande is the successor from the very experimental privat
>>>>>>chess program Voyager. La Petite play much aggresive and spekulative as La
>>>>>>Grande. The program is complete rewritten and is the work from many years.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>More information on my webpage.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Have fun with this new chess engine and thanks to Dr. Gabriele Müller.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Kind regards
>>>>>>Frank
>>>>>>
>>>>>>PS_1
>>>>>>This La Petite "WinBoard Engine" standing exclusive on my webpage !
>>>>>>
>>>>>>PS_2
>>>>>>Copy from the "WinBoard Forum"
>>>>>
>>>>>You didn't mention your URL, so I've taken the liberty
>>>>>to provide one:
>>>>>
>>>>>ftp://ftp.cis.uab.edu/pub/hyatt/
>>>>>
>>>>>--
>>>>>James
>>>>
>>>>It's at http://www.in-trier.de/~quisinsky/schach/download.htm  LaPetite appears
>>>>to play a very risky game, worth a try.
>>>>
>>>>Pete
>>>
>>>
>>>Let me give you a quick idea:  download this program.  Under unix, do a quick
>>>"strings lapetite.exe" and then download the latest "crafty" and give that a
>>>quick check.
>>>
>>>I'm not the least bit amused by this.  "many years of work" as it says in
>>>the web site is true...  but it appears to be mostly _my_ work.  :(
>>>
>>>This thing still uses crafty commands like reset, timeleft, etc.  It does the
>>>same sort of text processing.  I don't know of many programs that handle
>>>castling with "0-0", "o-o", "O-O", and "O-O+" ad so forth.  And uses my
>>>"savepos *" internal command to set the initial position to a non-standard
>>>position, etc.
>>>
>>>This guy is a scam artist.  This program is "crafty".  Just like his previous
>>>program (voyager).
>>>
>>>what a loser to keep trying this.  You'd think he would at least get a clue
>>>about how to hide his copying a little bit better.
>>>
>>>Please pass the word along that _if_ this program does go commercial, he can
>>>expect contact from my attorney.
>>
>>I think it's supposed to be a lady (Gabriele).  bsf...  I'm sure you're right.
>>However, you say that if the author were a bit less of a loser, he could hide
>>his deception easily.  If so, then it's likely others have done the same,
>>undetected.  By publishing the source, you encourage this sort of thing.  No way
>>around it.
>>
>>Will
>
>
>I don't encourage it, any more than the xfree86.org guys encourage people to
>steal the latest Xfree86 source, rename it, and claim it is something new.
>
>We had a guy at a very old ACM event that showed up with a 'stolen' commercial
>executable that he had edited a bit (with a debugger) to change the output,
>but the program was the same.
>
>If it is available, "they" will come, it seems...  :(

This is most unfortunate in the extreme.

I know you struggled with this issue a lot in the past year and considered all
the possiblities.

Try not to let this overshadow the number of people that the source code has
helped to learn fundimental ideas in computer chess.

The bad can often obscure the good.  A lot of good has been done

Thanks.

William
wbryant@ix.netcom.com




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