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Subject: Re: what i dislike with fritz5.32 and fritz6, and why...

Author: Paulo Soares

Date: 09:40:49 10/23/99

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On October 22, 1999 at 04:59:12, Thorsten Czub wrote:

>On October 21, 1999 at 23:33:20, Paulo Soares wrote:
>
>>I don't know any chess program that is good in this type
>>of analysis.
>
>I know a few !
>Hiarcs, Shredder, ChessTiger, Rebel, Mchess...
>
>
>> All they make the same mistakes that Fritz6 did in
>>the example that you presented. If you want good analyses, use
>>the procedure man+machine, and for this better is " Infinite Analyses "
>>of the ChessBase engines.
>
>?? the results have been made using infinite analysis.
>thats what i am talking about, that it makes not much sense
>to let fritz-like programs compute a long time on a move,
>since the result is not trustable only ONE ply after
>the long-analysis.

Although I have analysed your example in an incorrect way (read my post for
Uri), I don't see advantage in leaving any program analyse
a position for a long time, I prefer the style human+program,
and for that I use " N " moves (infinite analyses) of the chessbase engines,
that it activates the analyses. This is my point.


>> For not seeming that I am wanting to do
>>propaganda of ChessBase, I should say that already bought Rebel Century
>>and I intend to buy Tiger12 (Rebel Tiger), Schreder4 and Junior6, besides
>>already to have made the upgrade for Fritz6. Besides, I have Fritz5.32,
>>Genius6, Hiarcs7.0,Rebel10, Nimzo2000 and Hiarcs7.32.
>
>yup - me too.
>
>>I consider that you have not dates enough to say that Chesstiger and
>>other programs are much better than Fritz5 and Fritz6.
>
>???
>I consider that you are wrong and i have data that says that shredder
>and tiger are stronger programs than fritz5/fritz6 even before
>championship paderborn.

I would like to see these data.

>
>
>
>>What leaves me more
>>impressed is that Thorsten Czub is considered an expert in computer chess,
>>definitively I don't understand your procedure.
>
>Definetely i don't understand your point at all.
>Which procedure ???

I think that you are making negative propaganda of the chessbase engines,
showing a negative point and forgetting many other positive points.

Paulo

>>Paulo



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