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Subject: Re: Crafty rating on ICC

Author: Amir Ban

Date: 15:05:24 10/27/99

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On October 27, 1999 at 15:27:35, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>>On October 26, 1999 at 12:54:02, Amir Ban wrote:
>>

>>
>>
>>I had trouble myself believing that it's doing this, but it did.
>>
>
>If it hung, I'd believe it.  Because if crafty 'dies' xboard won't restart
>it, it just lets the game sit until the clock runs down.  The only abuse I
>see here is that this has happened on many occasions and most GM players
>will see it and message me.  Other non-titled players (and a few titled ones
>I admit) will promptly match it 20-30 times and let it flag every game to
>run their rating up.
>

Now you make it sound like you are a victim here. The point is that I've NEVER
seen crafty lose on time. Then it let's the clock run out in exactly the
position where it won't lose anything over it.

Coincidence ? Sure, if you say so.


>>
>>
>>I come to ICC to play. I don't have noplay lists. Your program displays some
>>over-aggressive behavior that can be called unpleasant to unsportsmanlike
>>according to taste. It would not be forgiven to a serious human player, and the
>>excuse that "it's just a dumb automatic program" is not good enough, since this
>>behavior is not very hard to change.
>>
>>Amir
>>
>
>You say you don't have a noplay list.  And since you run manual a noplay
>list makes no sense.  But you also said you have an 'implicit noplay list'
>because you want to play computers only close to your rating and not way
>below it.  If I were manual, I wouldn't have a ICC noplay list either.  I
>would just decline matches I didn't want to play.  But with an automatic
>interface, noplay is the only way to avoid those that seem to be abusers.
>
>The noplay list isn't a bad thing...  ie it sounds like you effectively have
>way more on yours than I do...  Or would you be willing to play any GM no
>matter what his rating?  I have given most GMs on ICC crafty's password so
>that they can play whenever they want, at any time control they want, without
>regard to its formula.  And I pay for it on occasion.
>>

I don't have a noplay list in the strong sense, not in the technical sense that
you make it. I don't refuse challenges on the basis of who the challenger is.

As for GM's, they don't want to play with me. I'm hardly ever challenged by a
GM. I challenge them, but they almost always refuse. I've more or less given up
on that. I wouldn't even dream of declining a GM if challenged.

Amir





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