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Subject: Re: About rating list and Tiger hype

Author: Tony Hedlund

Date: 10:49:18 10/28/99

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On October 28, 1999 at 09:31:22, Harald Faber wrote:

>On October 28, 1999 at 08:44:50, Enrique Irazoqui wrote:
>
>>>I don't until there is proof.
>>>A) CM wasn't tested on P90 so there is no comparison and no evidence that Tiger
>>>is also best on MMX200 or K6-450 as Rebel9 was best on P90 before but wasn't on
>>>MMX200. So to conclude from the P90 result that Tiger will also be best on
>>>faster machines is too early and probably wrong.
>>>B) I don't like all that Tiger-hype since most of the games and results are not
>>>tournament games.
>>
>>“Hype” is propaganda based on smoke and this is not what I am doing. We have
>>quite outstanding results coming from several sources. Some results at 40/2,
>>some at 60/30, and so far all seem to indicate that Tiger is the strongest in
>>comp-comp. Results are facts, no hype. You may or may not like them, but your
>>choice of the word “hype” is most unfortunate.
>
>You can bury me for the choice of that word if you want to, I don't mind. :-)
>
>Show me the tournament results. How many, who played them on which hardware
>(2PCs?)?
>
>>>Concerning TIger/K6-450 vs Prog X/P90 I think it is really nonsense to play such
>>>a match, no matter if Prog X has an almost safe rating.
>>>Take a class-a soccer team, let's call it team A, playing versus a team of the
>>>lowest regional class (call it Z). Team A wins 10-0. Let another team out of the
>>>class-a play against Z, call it team B. B wins 12-0. Would you say that team B
>>>is better/stronger than team A? I would never say that until I have more results
>>>and games within class-a. And you shouldn't say that too.
>>
>>SSDF people explained this very many times already. They might do it again in
>>this thread.
>>
>>Enrique
>
>I know and I was referring to that most significant argument. If a member
>doesn't have 2 K6-450 or 1xK6-450+1xMMX200 but only K6-450+P90, better leave
>playing programs against each other on these 2 machines.

As Enrique wrote, we have explained this so many times before it's sad to go
down that road again.

It doesn't matter which ELO the opponents to a new entrance have. We can play
200 Tiger 12 AMD K6-2 450 games against P90-programs, or we can play 200 games
against AMD K6-2 450 programs. We will get approx. the same ELO. It's in the
system made by Arpad Elo.

Tony



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