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Subject: Re: Tiger 12 - Fritz 6: +4 =3 -1 so far, 40/120, turned to autoplayer

Author: Enrique Irazoqui

Date: 04:15:41 10/31/99

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On October 31, 1999 at 07:03:18, blass uri wrote:

>On October 31, 1999 at 05:58:15, Enrique Irazoqui wrote:
>
>>On October 31, 1999 at 05:01:29, Harald Faber wrote:
>>
>>>On October 29, 1999 at 13:41:05, blass uri wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>>Sometimes you should read my other posts not concerning Tiger. I already stated
>>>>>>>what I think of the CB-autoplayer.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I remember that you said that this is a stupid autoplayer
>>>>>>and I think that all the autoplayers are stupid.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>They are not. There are CLEAN autoplayers. The DOS autoplayer may behave strange
>>>>>sometimes and the CB...well... but the general Windows-autoplayer, implemented
>>>>>in Nimzo, Shredder e.g., works fine.
>>>>
>>>>I have not the autoplayer but I did not hear something negative about the
>>>>chessbase autoplayer from Ed and other programmers not from chessbase.
>>>>
>>>>Do you know something that they do not know?
>>>>
>>>>Uri
>>>
>>>I don't know if the CB autoplayer cheats.
>>
>>Then I don't think you should question it any more that you can question
>>anything else in CC.
>>
>>> I know that I have seen some strange
>>>behaviour with the CB autoplayer.
>>
>>You can find "strange" things happening sometimes with all autoplayers.
>>
>>>And I know that no other autoplayer has such requirements: large enough
>>>hashtables for the chosen time control, large enough book and endgame CD-rom in
>>>the drive.
>>
>>A bright move from CB. They made sure that they programs wouldn't autoplay under
>>sub-optimal conditions.
>
>I do not agree.
>They give the users less options.

On the other hand, it's a way to avoid distorted results by autoplaying Fritz at
40:2 with 4MB hashtables, as it has happened with F4 in rated games.

>I think that giving the users more options is better.
>I think the users are intelligent enough to understand if the conditions are
>suboptimal.
>
>I do not think that CD-rom in the drive is optimal condition because I saw
>Nimzo99 losing some games against Mchess because of the stupid way of using this
>CD.
>
>I also think that the CD-rom of Fritz is part of the Fritz program so they
>should not let Junior or Nimzo to use it(The buyers of only Junior do not get
>the Fritz CD).

Recent CB programs don't require the CD in the drive when autoplaying.

Enrique

>Uri



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