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Subject: Re: Moderation:insults

Author: Bella Freud

Date: 11:30:00 11/16/99

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On November 16, 1999 at 14:12:22, Pete Galati wrote:

>On November 16, 1999 at 13:50:48, Bella Freud wrote:
>
>>On November 16, 1999 at 10:23:42, blass uri wrote:
>>
>>>I see sometimes things like these:
>>>X insults Y and Y respond by insulting X.
>>>
>>>I think that this behavior is not productive.
>>>I think that both sides should be warned not to do it.
>>>
>>>I think that criticizing behaviour of someone should be allowed only if it is
>>>without bad language and based on proved facts.
>>>
>>>It is better before posting something negative about someone to send him(her)
>>>an email to be sure that there is no misunderstanding.
>>>
>>>Uri
>>
>>Hi Uri,
>>
>>I don't know if you are talking about me. Perhaps not.
>>
>>I want to know why I am beign provoked elsewhere.
>>
>>Yesterday I had an email from Bruce that was an "official warning". Bruce said I
>>should post on-topics. Bruce copied the email warning to the other moderators.
>>Fair enough, I thought, if he felt this way.
>>
>>So I posted only on-topic. I made three on-topic posts and did not do anything
>>else that Bruce could say was an attack.
>>
>>
>>I posted this in reply to Ratko Atomic's post:
>>
>>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>On November 15, 1999 at 17:36:28, Bella Freud wrote:
>>
>>[snip]
>>>
>>>
>>>I consider it needs 24 hours to digest the true genius of your post.
>>>
>>>It generated in me an instant crystalisation of thought. Just by your inversion.
>>>Chess programs are playing "negative" chess. They avoid obvious loss by ply N.
>>>For them perfection is in loss avoidance (the not totally obvious opposite of
>>>win seeking). Therefore no style, no plan, no class. Just dumb obstructionism.
>>>
>>>
>>>Bella
>>--------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>
>>I thought this post was entorely on-topic and fair thing to say.
>>Then I got a reply to my post from the anonymous moderator "KarinsDad".
>>
>>This is his reply:
>>---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>I posted this same thought a few months back. Of course, my post was not as
>>eloquent or well thought out as Ratko's. You must have missed it. I guess the
>>idea is not that appealing to you anymore since I never contribute anything
>>worthwhile.
>>
>>KarinsDad :)
>>---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>
>>I think that the last sentence is a provocation. Or a troll. It is designed to
>>get me to react.
>>
>>Why does an anonymous moderator do this? He must have read the "warning" from
>>Bruce, and he must also have seen that I was making on-topic posts.
>>
>>So why is he trying to stir things up?
>>
>>It seems that there are some folk who don't like what I do, whatever I do, and
>>who are trying to get me banned. Or is there some other wierd motive?
>>
>>
>>Bella
>
>I don't think he was talking about you,


Of couse he is talking about me. He replied to my post and said "you" twice. If
it is not me then I am a Dutchwoman.

> I won't mention the name of who I
>beleive he was referring to because I don't want to argue with that person.
>
>I don't think that you are in any danger of being bannned,

I got a private email from the anonymous moderator (KD) which told me to "get
lost". He did *not* copy it to the other moderators.

Very strange way to behave. My opinion.


Bella


 I don't really notice
>you causing any trouble,  I can't say I understand what you were saying in your
>post that you quoted above, but it does not appear very off topic to me, I've
>been farther off topic than that, but I'm fortunate that people tend to ignore
>me so it's probably easier for me to do that.
>
>Pete



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