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Subject: Moderation: Cut me a break!

Author: KarinsDad

Date: 18:23:08 11/16/99

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On November 16, 1999 at 13:50:48, Bella Freud wrote:

[snip]
>
>So I posted only on-topic. I made three on-topic posts and did not do anything
>else that Bruce could say was an attack.
>
>
>I posted this in reply to Ratko Atomic's post:
>
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>On November 15, 1999 at 17:36:28, Bella Freud wrote:
>
>[snip]
>>
>>
>>I consider it needs 24 hours to digest the true genius of your post.
>>
>>It generated in me an instant crystalisation of thought. Just by your inversion.
>>Chess programs are playing "negative" chess. They avoid obvious loss by ply N.
>>For them perfection is in loss avoidance (the not totally obvious opposite of
>>win seeking). Therefore no style, no plan, no class. Just dumb obstructionism.
>>
>>
>>Bella
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>I thought this post was entorely on-topic and fair thing to say.
>Then I got a reply to my post from the anonymous moderator "KarinsDad".
>
>This is his reply:
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>I posted this same thought a few months back. Of course, my post was not as
>eloquent or well thought out as Ratko's. You must have missed it. I guess the
>idea is not that appealing to you anymore since I never contribute anything
>worthwhile.
>
>KarinsDad :)
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>
>
>I think that the last sentence is a provocation. Or a troll. It is designed to
>get me to react.

Maybe. And maybe it was in response to this comment of yours from the 15th:

"I find your comments patronising and devoid of computer chess content. I mean
all your comments. I do not believe that you are "writing a chess program
without alpha-beta". I think you are making that up in a vain attempt to give
yourself credibility. Reason? Never any computer chess content that shows any
sign of any understanding at all in any of your posts, ever."

So, when you posted a message about something you hadn't thought about before
and that you thought was a real interesting idea, I thought I'd point out that I
mentioned it a couple of months ago in order to indicate that maybe I do post
some computer content material at times.

And, of course, your response to my message that you quoted above was:

"I already told you. I think you lie. That your "chess program" does not exist."

So, here we have a person that says that she only posts on-topic. Calling me a
liar is not really on topic (I think Bruce may consider that one an attack).
Telling me that my comments are patronizing and devoid of computer chess content
may be on-topic, but is rather rude if not abusive.

Knowing about my program that doesn't really use alpha-beta when you only joined
a month ago and I haven't discussed it in that timeframe indicates that not only
have you been on this forum before, but that you are also anonymous. Anyone care
to take bets on who you really are? Hmmmm. Doesn't like other anonymous people.
Doesn't like me personally. Throws fuel on the fire multiple times. Doesn't
think I am working on a program. Has on several occasions made mention of the
lack or morality or intelligence of members here. Hmmmm. I can think of someone
who has said those particular things more times than I care to remember.

And, of course, here you are again. Jumping on my case, throwing more fuel on
the fire (even though you already responded to my post above by calling me a
liar, you just had to throw a few more posts into this separate thread when I
had not even posted on this thread yet). Hmmmm.

KarinsDad :)

PS. Elsewhere in this thread, you indicated that I told you to get lost in an
Email. My actual words were "Grow up or leave" but I realize that you were
posting from memory. I thought I had sent that Email to Bruce and Dann since it
was in response to an Email of yours complaining about me, but I must have
mistakenly not. I have since corrected that. They now have copies.

PSS. Although a few people here in this thread have stated that they have not
had a problem with your posts, I have quite a few Emails from members
complaining (some to all of the moderators, some to just me). I can only think
of one other member that people have been complaining about. You're looking
good. Only one competitor.

PSSS. By the way, although my posts have not been sterling in the last few days,
I have noticed that you are the only one who complained to the moderators about
them. Nobody else has yet complained about them (although some people may now
that I have mentioned it). Moderators are not perfect. We are members as well.
And when someone jumps on our case, we react too.

However, I am quite willing to forget this entire thing and leave it on the
floor if you are willing to be more reasonable (my definition of reasonable:
controversial topics ok, subtlely antagonist comments about others or the group
not ok).



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