Author: Ed Schröder
Date: 10:44:28 11/20/99
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On November 20, 1999 at 12:42:54, Christophe Theron wrote: >On November 20, 1999 at 01:39:03, Micheal Cummings wrote: > >>On November 19, 1999 at 22:51:12, Christophe Theron wrote: >> >>>On November 19, 1999 at 21:36:18, Micheal Cummings wrote: >>> >>>>On November 19, 1999 at 16:39:13, Christophe Theron wrote: >>>> >>>>>On November 19, 1999 at 15:42:10, Jari Huikari wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On November 19, 1999 at 14:56:35, Christophe Theron wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>>2. How many years you have used in developing Tiger? >>>>>> >>>>>>>I started to think about chess programming in 1979, but at that time I did not >>>>>>>manage to write a chess program for my TI-58. I wrote my first real chess >>>>>>>program in 1982, in assembly, on a TRS-80. >>>>>> >>>>>>I started four and half years ago. I remember that chess program came into >>>>>>my mind in 1983 when I got VIC 20. But with VIC one could only consider >>>>>>Tic Tac Toe programs, because of the small memory. I remember anyhow I saw >>>>>>a chess program for VIC. It could play - crudely. It let the kings be >>>>>>captured and the game continued anyhow after taking them... >>>>>> >>>>>>But when I bought Sargon II cartridge I got a reasonable computer opponent >>>>>>for the first time in my life. >>>>>> >>>>>> Jari >>>>> >>>>>That's how it started for me too. When I played for the first time against >>>>>Sargon II on TRS-80. It was in 1979, I was in africa at that time. >>>>> >>>>>I have got Sargon I only several years after! :) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Christophe >>>> >>>>I had a TRS-80 Colour Computer II, used to spend days copying programs from >>>>magazines into this thing, only to ever get a really crappy game at the end. But >>>>still it was better then the 1K MC-10 computer I first got. Just getting a block >>>>on the screen with that things was great >>> >>> >>>Yeah! Remember the incredible resolution of the TRS-80? It was 128x48 pixels, >>>and you could mix text with graphics. I'm still wondering how they were able to >>>draw the chess pieces, but they did! >>> >>>I think the TRS-80 color had a better resolution, but I never had it. My next >>>computer was a TRS-80 model III, then I got a model IV. They were compatible >>>with each other, which was my main motivation to stick with them. >>> >>>Then I got a Sanyo 550 which was my first IBM PC compatible. It was in 1985 or >>>1986, I don't even remember... >>> >>> >>> Christophe >> >>My first computer chess program was cyrus chess for the TRS-80 Colour computer >>II, level 1 beat me on many occasions. > > >IIRC, Cyrus was one of the first programs of Richard Lang. Richard began on Z80 >(which was the heart of the TRS-80 computers), and later switched to the >Motorola family. > >There is also a Cyrus for PC, which was produced by David Levy's company. I >think it's still Richard's program, but years after. Something close to the >Mephisto Amsterdam. > > > >> Back then the guy at the store said it >>could beat 99.8% of the world. Which I though was pretty good. But years later >>when I started to think about it, the people in this world who actually play >>chess is a small percentage. And when you think of 0.2% of the worlds >>population, that 0.2% includes millions of people. So really it is deceptive >>avertising to make things look better. >> >>Thats why we used to have things priced $1.99, cause it looks better than $2. >>Strange thing in Aus now is that we got rid of our 1 and 2 cent coins, and still >>they mark items in 99 cents amounts. Looks good but the stores just round it up >>to the $1 anyway. Why not round down to 95 cents. We get ripped off many times. >> >>There was a nice program of the Commadore Amiga, like battle chess, but more >>graphic, you got to see blood and bones when the knight hacked off the queens >>head. Anyway this beat Cyrus quite easily. Wish I still had that Amiga program, >>it was cool. > > >I remember I had other chess programs for the TRS-80: >* MicroChess 1.5 (worked on a 4Kb TRS-80!) >* Sargon I & II >* Sfinks >* Gambit >* ...and mine, which was called Sparph at that time. You miss one :) Rebel since 1982 was available on a casette (loading time 12 minutes) sold by a small dutch shop. Sold copies 20 or so :) Ed >I'm sure there were some others, but I don't remember exactly about them. Sfinks >was probably as good as Sargon II. Somebody has heard about William Fink since >that time? > > > Christophe
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