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Subject: Re: New SSDF list

Author: blass uri

Date: 15:36:29 11/27/99

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On November 27, 1999 at 17:33:13, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On November 27, 1999 at 12:18:07, Fernando Villegas wrote:
>
>>I do not understand your point, Bob. This is not a match between two computers,
>>but many. How a program could do well just tuning against Tiger? Maybe that
>>could mean to un-tune against any other of the concurrence. Maybe some opening
>>preparations, but...
>>Fernando
>
>
>This is easy.  A year ago, due to some unusual new eval features I added, I
>ended up with a version that had very little trouble with Fritz 5 at any time
>control.  It won so many games that Lonnie accused me of using a Cray to play
>against him.  If I sent _that_ version to the SSDF for testing, it would have
>done very well against fritz, because fritz would be totally unprepared.  But
>once they saw what was happening, some adjusting on their end (king safety and
>passed pawns in particular) and this advantage would have eyvaporated.
>
>Almost always the _last released_ program goes to the top of the SSDF.  In this
>case, it is an _unreleased_ version, which means _nobody_ had a chance to look
>at the book, and the depth, at the evals, and find out what it is doing....

I do not see this almost always.
The last released version of Junior or shredder or tal were never number 1.

Junior4 was never released but it did not help it to be number 1.

The versions of shredder and tal were not tested by the ssdf testers or were
tested as annonymous programs and could not be number 1.

In the last years except fritz only hiarcs and chessmaster were number 1 and had
only a small advantage(not 25 elo rating advantage) and the advantage of tiger
could be bigger if it used aggresive learning(trying to repeat won games)

Uri



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