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Subject: Re: Conversion chart for chess ratings with the SSDF chess computer list

Author: Albert Silver

Date: 17:25:24 11/27/99

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On November 27, 1999 at 17:36:23, Bruce Moreland wrote:

>On November 27, 1999 at 11:56:17, Jonathan Lee wrote:
>
>>    Is there a web site that has conversion between ratings?
>>    There is:
>>    SSDF Swedish
>>    ELO Hungarian
>>    USCF United States
>>    FIDE International (and a lot more)
>>    Yes, the November 1999 chess computer List uses the Swedish rating method.
>>    Maybe percentiles (among humans and/or computers) could be the universal
>>method also.
>>    It is safe bet you could use 99%, 99.1%, 99.2%, etc.
>>    Almost everything is two thousand something (2000+) for the latest computer
>>list in which 3000 is 100 percent.
>>    There should be no philosophical differences on this one.
>>    I do have a conversion between USCF and FIDE in a rule book.
>>    Jonathan (14th message)
>
>There aren't enough games played between these programs and humans under
>tournament conditions to generate a successful conversion.  There is enough
>trouble trying to convert ratings between the human scales.  None of the top
>SSDF programs have real FIDE or USCF ratings.
>
>They are very strong.  Whether they are as strong as GM's or IM's or what is
>open to contention.
>
>If they aren't as strong as typical GM's already, they are within a hardware
>generation or two of being that strong.  This doesn't mean that they will be
>able to understand every position as well as a GM, it simply means that they'll
>score 50% in tournament play on a computer that you can lift.
>
>In 1995 at the Hong Kong WCCC everyone was asked when they thought computers
>would be as strong as the world champion.  My pick was not published in the
>ICCAJ, presumably since I was a nobody.  My date was 2005, and I'm still
>sticking to this four and a half years later.
>
>bruce

I don't expect any company to try to repeat or improve on Deep Blue, although
I'd love to be wrong, so I can only assume you believe a PC (or combination
of)will be as good or better than the current Deep Blue in 5-6 years time. I
find this hard to believe but who knows? If Hsu comes through with the
commercialization of his DB chips, who can say? Barring that, I don't agree.

                                   Albert Silver



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