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Subject: Re: Further Rebel does this Grand feat and it's not even the strongest prog!

Author: Chessfun

Date: 11:06:32 12/05/99

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On December 05, 1999 at 13:43:27, Charles Unruh wrote:

>On December 05, 1999 at 01:48:32, Chessfun wrote:
>
>>On December 05, 1999 at 00:56:17, Charles Unruh wrote:
>>
>>>On December 04, 1999 at 17:32:47, Chessfun wrote:
>>>
>>>>On December 04, 1999 at 16:50:46, Charles Unruh wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>   Not even the strongest program and here it is performing great feats drawing
>>>>>2593 GM!  Beats GM Sherbakov,  Draws ANAND,  Beats Lithuanian Nat'l Team,
>>>>>Called  "Definitely GM strength by I.M KAufman(Xpert on chess play), and yet
>>>>>Rebel and comps  can't get the slightest respect being called barely USCF MAster
>>>>> strength when they are obviously GMs
>>>>
>>>>How do you know Rebel is not the strongest program when it comes to playing
>>>>humans or playing computers for that matter.
>>>>Who called them BARELY USCF master strength, I must have missed that post.
>>>>Thanks.
>>>
>>>
>>>You are right i can't say definitively that' it's not the strongest prog, but
>>>since i have been in these news groups, and a computer chess afficionado, i feel
>>>fairly confident in stating that The vast Majority of CCC Members do not feel
>>>that the current rebel is the strongest prog, though at times in the past it may
>>>have been.
>>>  As for the barely USCF master, i'm not going to name names.  However if you
>>>remember back only a weak ago it was the trigger for the "Stop the lunacy"
>>>thread.
>>
>>
>>The "Stop the lunacy" thread was one you started....
>
>Indeed it was,  and?  If you went back in that thread several of those people
>who made the outrageos


>claim were writing in that thread trying to suppoert just
>that point.  There is a post here today.  Where someone directly stated that
>comps are great at tactics but only 1600 in positional strength!
>

That post is one I questioned however since positional strength is only one
facet of a total rating that opinion isn't the same as saying BARELY USCF master
strength.

>BTW is lunacy a real word,
>>anyway you were not specific in that post....i quote.
>
>Lunacy?  Do you have a dictionary or know plain common everyday english?

Was just a pun, however since I notice in your tone above and in other threads
you like to insult, when I was just simply questioning why you used the words
BARELY USCF master strength this will be the last time I reply to any thread you
begin.
In closing maybe you should check your dictionary.....outrageos
nay....Outrageous !!.
Thanks.

>>
>>Post #80157
>>"In the last 3 days i have seen at leaset 6 posts trying to make out that the
>>progs were barely USCF master strength!  There is no mere master in the united
>>states that could dream of beating sherbakov with money on the line, or beat the
>>lithuanian national team, or beat Gelfand in a 40/2 it does not happen!  Yeah
>>people are entitled to their opinions but i think there are limits come on."
>>
>>I tried in vain to find the other (least 6) posts where people referred to
>>programs as BARELY USCF master strength but could not.
>>Thanks.



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