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Subject: Re: my own auto232 player

Author: Vincent Diepeveen

Date: 09:39:08 12/09/99

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On December 09, 1999 at 11:57:17, Christophe Theron wrote:

>On December 09, 1999 at 08:45:06, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
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>>On December 09, 1999 at 05:58:45, Enrique Irazoqui wrote:
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>>>On December 09, 1999 at 04:49:45, Enrique Irazoqui wrote:
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>>>>The best I can do is to play 40 games at 60/60
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>>>I mean 60/30, 60 moves in 30 minutes.
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>>no way i'm never gonna go 60/30 then diep gets sometimes only 7 plies
>>deep in a few crucial positions.
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>Having 6 times more time will not save you in this case. How deeper can you go
>with 6 times more time? 2 plies I guess?

minimum depth 9 indeed.

there is a HUGE difference between all plies *at least* 9 ply
or *at least* 7 ply.

At duals and quads the bigger hashtable and parallel cutoffs
cause simply that the worst case is less bad of DIEP, as i don't
allow to split below my trees more than 0.5 n processors,
so there is no worst case there.

This causes in positions where the single cpu version has a bit of
bad luck with move ordering, that the parallel version usual doesn't
have it.

therefore at a quad xeon 400Mhz (linux), which represents 4x400 x 0.9
(linux compiler slower) = 1600 x 0.9 = 1400Mhz roughly.

that sounds a lot, but at 90 0 in dutch open i got all games at least
10 ply deep, where at home some positions at a 450Mhz NT at analysis level
it sometimes hardly gets 9, though simple math tells me that objectively
1400 / 450 = roughly 3.5

So if i give it 3.5 times more time than the quad got in dutch open,
then i should get objectively of course single cpu at least the same
depth in *any* position.

I'm not interested in the speedup then of course, i'm only interested
in the minimum depth my program searches in this case.

However this test goes wrong. the quad does *a lot* better.
Usual my move ordering does ok, but in a few positions where it is dead
wrong, there parallellism in my opinion clearly prevents that
worst case to happen.

40 in 2 level at at least k6-2 (preferably intel though)
like at SSDF i find therefore a normal time control for this bet.

Vincent

>You need a 1 move in 2 hours time control.

Such a match would be fun too, but a bit hard to get systemtime for.
i want to have my champaign sooner than that too...



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>>don't worry i've got offers enuf from testers.
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>Who has offered to play the match?
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>    Christophe



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