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Subject: Re: SSDF Rating Irregularities

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 06:11:11 12/10/99

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On December 10, 1999 at 02:37:35, John Warfield wrote:

>On December 09, 1999 at 22:59:27, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On December 09, 1999 at 22:42:45, Len Eisner wrote:
>>
>>>On December 09, 1999 at 22:22:16, Christophe Theron wrote:
>>>
>>>>On December 09, 1999 at 22:11:00, Len Eisner wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>The older programs on the SSDF list are underrated and the newer ones are
>>>>>overrated.  Why is that?
>>>>>
>>>>>Bob Hyatt's view is that the best of the current programs are about 2450.  That
>>>>>is at least 200 points less than their SSDF ratings.
>>>>>
>>>>>The older programs seem to be underrated by about as much as the new ones are
>>>>>overrated.  For example, the Fidelity Mach IV is only rated 2074 when it should
>>>>>be over 2250.  The old Novag Super Constellation is only 1731.  I know it was at
>>>>>least 200 points stronger than that.
>>>>>
>>>>>Len
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>What are your arguments to support this statement?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>    Christophe
>>>
>>>I will defer to Bob Hyatt on the 2450 ceiling for the current generation of
>>>programs.
>>>
>>>The ratings for the older programs were established by the CRA at the time.  I
>>>believe the Mach IV was 2325 and the Super Connie was 2018.  In addition, I am a
>>>Class A player and can verify that the Super Connie is indeed an expert. Other
>>>old programs on the SSDF also seem underrated.  To name just a few:
>>>
>>>Fidelity Par Excellence  1835
>>>Novag Super Expert  1838
>>>Fidelity Mach III  1993
>>>
>>>I owned these programs and can verify that they are underrated, at least by USCF
>>>standards.
>>>
>>>Len
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Len
>>
>>
>>Just remember that the CRA rating fiasco was based on action chess games,
>>not 40/2hr games...
>
>
> ON what hardware is the 2450? rating for computers  pent 200?


You mean my current "2450" rating estimate for top programs?  Current hardware
as in PIII/600.  Against humans I don't think a PII/400 would be much, if any,
weaker.  Against other computers it would make a much bigger difference.



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