Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 07:13:04 12/12/99
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On December 12, 1999 at 03:39:45, blass uri wrote: >On December 11, 1999 at 21:08:12, Robert Hyatt wrote: > > >>Comp vs Comp will say nothing about how comp vs human goes. IE for an example, >>Tiger 12 looks _very_ strong vs computers, but so-so against humans. I have >>not yet studied its games very carefully, although I now have a couple of dozen >>games vs Crafty on ICC and FICS. It seems to be perfectly tuned to beat >>computers... it seems very materialistic and ready to accept any gambit offered, >>and they try to make the opponent justify it accurately. How it is going to do >>once it is out 'en masse' will be very interesting to watch. But it clearly >>isn't doing _nearly_ as well vs humans (even with anti-human on) as it is doing >>against other programs... >> >>Which is completely not surprising. I said several years ago that to attempt to >>write a program to blast to the top of the SSDF is a _totally_ different thing >>from trying to write a program to blast to the top of the FIDE rating list. > >I think that one possible reason for the fact that tiger does not do well >against humans as against computers is that tiger has no learning by position >and humans can try to repeat the same game again and again at fast time control >and learning by book is not enough because humans can get tiger out of book in 1 >or 2 moves. > >It is not important against computers because they do not try to play lines like >1.h4 > >I do not know if this is the reason because I did not see the games. > >I think that it is more important for humans to know how does tiger as a program >operated manually when the operator can fix the opening book between games. > >This is what is going to happen if tiger plays in fide events. > >Uri If you watch it play on FICS or ICC, you will see some things that are going to cause grave problems against GM players... And I am not talking about playing the same game over and over...
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