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Subject: Re: Botanists and flower collectors

Author: Walter Koroljow

Date: 04:55:59 12/13/99

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On December 13, 1999 at 05:59:39, Masciulli Gianluigi wrote:

>On December 12, 1999 at 11:41:54, Enrique Irazoqui wrote:
>
>>Both strings are concentric, so no pulling up. The distance from string A to
>>string B is constant at every point, with A being exactly the equator of Earth,
>>40 million meters. So you have two concentric circles, one of 40 million meters
>>in length and the other of 40 million and 1 meter. The question was what is the
>>distance between A and B. Gianluigi gave the right answer, but he had to
>>calculate it. "Intuitively", people say that this distance is near zero. And
>>Wittgentein went fishing... :)
>>
>I'll not calculate but i'll give you more:
>to be fair I have to say that I knew a very similar story so for me was easy ;-)
>
>I already knew that the distance is non made by the lenght but by the differece
>of length: the lenght of the first circle symply don't matter.
>there is no trick.
>basically you can do the same on moon, on sun (or maybe around your head;-)
>and the answer will be the same.
>wittgentein was right ... this is not intuitive but is right!!
>
>ciao
>
>gianluigi


But intuition changes.  I first came across the concentric circle problem in
relation to distances run on a track.  After that, the answer _became_ a part of
my intuition.

This happens all the time in mathematics.  As one learns more, the abstract
becomes concrete and "intuitive".  I have often heard people say, e.g.,
"...consider a concrete example, such as a complex vector space in N
dimensions...".

An interesting example of developing intuition was a program which interactively
allowed people to manipulate an object in four dimensions (you could see a two
dimensional projection of the object on a screen).  People became proficient in
this very non-intuitive manipulation.  I think we would have to say it became
intuitive for them.

I imagine that chess program issues will also become more intuitive as we learn
more.

Cheers,

Walter




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