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Subject: Re: testing the Fritz6Demo v Hiarcs

Author: Chessfun

Date: 14:45:00 12/15/99

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On December 15, 1999 at 08:17:11, Chessfun wrote:

>On December 15, 1999 at 07:39:13, Shep wrote:
>
>>On December 14, 1999 at 07:36:55, Bert Seifriz wrote:
>>
>>>Do you think Chessbase is so stupid as to put the
>>>real engine in it?
>>
>>Who knows? Remember Rebel Decade 2 (the one with the Rebel 9 engine in it)?
>>
>>For me, there are two possibilities:
>>Either they included an older Fritz engine (like 3.0 or 4.0), or they included
>>the real thing. Using a dumbed-down F6 would make no sense, would be easier to
>>use an older engine if they just wanted to show off the interface and the
>>general strength of Fritz.
>>
>>Besides, never underestimate a programmer's ability to commit "silly" mistakes!
>>I have seen experts with $100,000/year salaries leaving their databases wide
>>open to access by anyone, or programs with huuuge holes in their copy protection
>>etc.
>>It's not totally impossible that no-one at Chessbase thought "wait, what if
>>someone uses the engine in another Fritz GUI?"...
>>
>>Maybe someone owning both the demo and the commercial version can just compare
>>the engines' results on some test suite positions (given the same hash, of
>>course), that'll clear up all the speculation.
>>
>>---
>>Shep
>
>Currently I am running two matches in Hiarcs 7.32 gui.
>Hiarcs 6 Fritz6L 1. 25 min ea/game
>Hiarcs 4 Fritz6L 1 nunn. 25 min ea/game
>I await the real Fritz 6. so cannot compare directly.
>Seems at this point to be not real Fritz6 though earlier running 5 min game it
>scored well v both F5.32 and H7.32.
>Thanks.


Final scores
Hiarcs 7.32 "13"----Fritz 6 Light "2" + 6 draws. 25 min ea game.
Hardware Cel 433A

Hiarcs 7.32 "7"----Fritz 6 Light "8" + 3 draws. Playing last 2. 25 min ea game.
Hardware P166

The scores indicate either Hiarcs superior opening book as I used Fritz 5 book
for Fritz 6 Light or for some reason Hiarcs superior performance on = but faster
hardware. Fritz 6 Light seemed to do good in the nunn games while it has been
eaten in the normal games.

If someone will tell me how to get the games from Hiarcs automatch DB to here in
PGN format I will post them.
Thanks.






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