Author: Dave Gomboc
Date: 22:58:00 12/16/99
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On December 16, 1999 at 08:14:38, Thorsten Czub wrote:
>On December 16, 1999 at 05:19:55, Dave Gomboc wrote:
>
>>On December 15, 1999 at 20:33:13, Thorsten Czub wrote:
>>
>>>the arabien number have the angles. they count the angles in each number.
>>>1 has one angle. 2 has 2 angles. 3 has 3 angles... 8 has eight angles
>>>and 9 has nine angles. sero has sero angles since it is a round number.
>>>so you see, hip people produce much better ideas...
>>
>>Can you go through this again, a bit more slowly? For each digit, what are the
>>angles?
>
>:-)) it was to slow for you ??
>
>many people have forgotten that arabien numbers are icons too.
>most people do only remind that roman-numbers are little-icons consisting
>out of I and X that means: more or less straight lines.
>
>arabien number have the same history, straight lines, that have been
>ordered arround angles.
>this is one reason why the american way of writing the 1 makes
>no sense, since a number ONE without 1 angle is sero !!
>here in europe we write the 1 as you can even see in the computer
>letter, with an angle in the top.
>thats the ONE angle the 1 should have.
>all other number were build by straight lines to and have been
>made round in the history, so people forgot about the meaning of the lines.
>but it is - as you can imagine, easy (i cannot paint it here
>due to the pc is a weak media for painting): think of a 2 made out
>of straight lines, than you see the angle in the top and the angle at the
>bottom.
>see the 3 with straight lines, you have top, bottom and middle. gives
>3 angles.
>8 is very easy ! with some numbers it is more difficult. the 4 e.g.
>has changed over the cneturies and the way my computer shows it,
>is wrong. in the triangle of the 4 we have 3 angles. than the line
>beneath the triangle there is the 4th angle. the line on the back
>of the 4 is not right. it is a wrong change of the icon of the four and
>makes it senseless, in fact makes a 6 out of the 4.
>the same problem is the 7. the way my computer writes it, it shows
>more a 2 than a seven.
>but when i was a young children at school i had to learn how to write
>a seven, and this really had 7 angles.
>
>ok. i think you forgot some :-))) , but when you are really interested
>into this topic , i can sent you an image made with MS-paint and
>show you the real outfit of the number as they once have been designed
>millenniums ago !
Okay, so Thorsten sent me this .bmp file which I am taking a look at right now.
It's pretty cool. I must admit that I'm not completely convinced that the
Arabian numbers were originally written as they are drawn in the .bmp file :),
but then again, I have no reason to think they weren't, either. Here's a rough
ascii-ization of it. The asterisks denote the angles.
The zero is easy O
Three \
/| *\
One /*| /
| /* (the lines could be all be
| \ more horizontal)
*\
Two --- /
*/ /
/
/*
---
----- -----
Four Five |* |*
/| |* Six |*
/*| ----- |-----
/**| *| |* *|
---| |* *| |* *|
*| ---- -----
Seven ---------- Eight ---- Nine ----
*/ |* *| |* *|
/ |* *| |* *|*
|* */* ---- ------
+----+-- |* *| *|*
|* */* |* *| |* *|
/ ---- ----
/
Cool, wot?
Dave
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